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Old 07-22-2012, 07:07 PM   #21
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Unfortunately everyone is always looking for the best deal. I suppose that's part of the reason everything is made in China.
This has nothing to do with why almost everything is made in china. It's shareholders and stock prices that drives publicly traded companies to outsource to china. Share prices are more important to corporations than customer service and satisfaction.

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Old 07-22-2012, 11:05 PM   #22
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I bought an RS1 in May this year and I love this helmet. I guess now that I think of it, it is a TAD bit bigger than my other helmets but that's it. It's very stable on high speed, daily commutes here in California so I like it a lot.

What bothers me more is someone who gives out wrong information at a dealership though.

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Old 07-22-2012, 11:13 PM   #23
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The first thing I noticed about my Bell Star is that it has better air flow than any helmet on the market. I've got an Arai RX-7, Shoei X-12, Suomy, etc, etc, etc. and the Bell Star has better air flow than any of them. It's the only helmet I've ever worn that when you actually open up the vents you can feel air coming in.

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Old 07-22-2012, 11:21 PM   #24
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didn't know this helmet was so popular. what color visor you guys rockin'? feel like darth vader with my black smoke windscreen. might switch it up to silver.

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Old 07-22-2012, 11:25 PM   #25
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didn't know this helmet was so popular. what color visor you guys rockin'? feel like darth vader with my black smoke windscreen. might switch it up to silver.
Yeah I have the black gearhead RS1 with black visor. Definitely Darth Vadering it up.

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Old 07-22-2012, 11:40 PM   #26
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I've got the matte black Bell Star with the black visor =]

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Old 07-23-2012, 06:37 PM   #27
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This has nothing to do with why almost everything is made in china. It's shareholders and stock prices that drives publicly traded companies to outsource to china. Share prices are more important to corporations than customer service and satisfaction.
if consumers valued Made in the USA, they would buy Made in the USA, and they would drive strong earnings which is what shareholders value, and they would keep companies located in the US to capitalize on it

"Made in China" is the fault of the US consumer, and no one else

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Old 07-24-2012, 08:12 AM   #28
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I dislike them as well. When I got the zx I went there and Hillsboro. Bought at Hillsboro because they were way better, and worked with me more on financing. Bobs couldn't care less I felt. I do disagree on the fact that EDR is cheap. The fact is, Well it isn't. Was gonna buy oil there, forget that.... Not sure exactly what Sharp rating is, I am guessing racing rated. I always make sure my helmets are Snell rated above standard DOT. But if you want all USA and headquartered in Portland for that fact, Icon is what you want. I don't think they have Sharp rating though.
EDR is not cheap, but they sell a good product / services. BHY may be cheaper the first time you pay, but then when you have to pay AGAIN to have it fixed right... that kinda raises the overall pricce.

SHARP is basically the only realistic testing for how well a helm protects your brain. That's why I like the european standard better than snell. The snell rating for example is fine in that your head will look great, but the problem is, your brain will suffer so many deceleration Gs that you will be a veggie.
(as always just imho)

http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/

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Old 07-24-2012, 08:16 AM   #29
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Ok, I am in love with the Bell Star, but havn't bought one yet.

I high sided and landed on my face last weekend at the ridge, and no concussion, but a bruise/rub on my forehead.

Shoei X-12 for the mother F'in win.

You're right, it doesn't vent very well, but it's not that bad, and I am incredibly impressed with how my helmet performed in a 70mph highside, where I flew about 8 ft in the air... and I'm not a small guy.
Matt you might also want to check out Bells RS1 (see video reviews on page 1) more of a direct competitor to shoie 1100...


OHHH and if you've got a Bell, you gotta love the transisions lens technology on the visor... I know it's a C-note for a visor, but come on... dark to light back to dark again, depending on ambient light conditions. How F-ing cool is that ?!?!?!

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Old 07-24-2012, 08:27 AM   #30
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Looks like some employee education on product is needed.
We used to have a meeting 30 minutes prior to the store opening.
Once a week. We let everyone know what was new. What the trends where.
Where we could get product. ect.
Yes, we missed every now and then. But, we where trying.

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Old 07-24-2012, 11:20 AM   #31
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Looks like some employee education on product is needed.
We used to have a meeting 30 minutes prior to the store opening.
Once a week. We let everyone know what was new. What the trends where.
Where we could get product. ect.
Yes, we missed every now and then. But, we where trying.
Can't say your wrong James, but to me it still looks like someone was trying to make a sale at all costs. They clearly didn't have what Dave wanted in shop, and it doesn't look like they can order them any more (not available for order on their website), so the sales guy tried to offer a substitute item. To be fair there is nothing wrong with that (IMHO), but to outright lie about the desired product to get the customer to switch, just really shows the level of integrity that Beaverton Honda has in treating their customers. What really concerns me here, is that if this is happening in the accessories dept., what is going on in the service dept., or even on the showroom floor?

Caveat Emptor!

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Old 07-24-2012, 06:12 PM   #32
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I went to Beaverton Honda recently looking for a Nolan N104. They didn't have much variety, but hey did have the size and color I wanted. I asked if they price matched and the sales person said "yeah, but these prices are factory-set... good luck finding it cheaper online" So, I showed her where Revzilla had it for $100 cheaper than them. She then said "well... I'm reporting them" and stood there for a minute. I said "Ok, but will you match them". After checking with the manager (or whatever), she came down to $369 ($20 more than revzilla) which I decided was worth it for the immediate gratification. I also bought the bluetooth module for it (for the same amount as the helmet). I tried it out, and the volume on the BT unit was unusable (maybe just a bad unit, I dunno). I tried to return it the following day and she (same sales person) wouldn't (at first) give me a refund, pointing to a small sign behind he register saying "no refunds on electronics" (Imagine if Best Buy had that policy). After some groaning, she took it back, but wouldn't give me the refund until she got through to her Nolan rep on the phone, and had me explain to him (???) why I was taking it back. This took an extra half an hour I didn't have on my lunch break.

I won't be going back to them.

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Old 07-24-2012, 10:37 PM   #33
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I hope you guys give these same reviews on yelp. The public needs to know, not just pnwriders.

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Old 07-25-2012, 05:44 AM   #34
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http://www.runeriders.com/forum/show...eaverton+honda

for those too busy to click, I saw a rune at beaverton honda with custom paint. I posted to find out who sold it and some history on the bike, here is what the prior owner of the rune said.

" That's my totaled Rune at Beaverton Honda
Hi All - Just a quick reply to anyone interested. That is my old Rune in the photo. I went down to Beaverton Honda to confirm it. Of course the saleman tried to sell it to me again. He said it had "never been down and didn't have a scratch." I actually scratched it to the tune of $21,500 when it was totaled six months ago. I thought a totaled bike had to have salvage title. Are they crooked, or what??????"

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Old 07-25-2012, 06:58 AM   #35
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why I"ll never buy anything from them


http://www.runeriders.com/forum/show...eaverton+honda

for those too busy to click, I saw a rune at beaverton honda with custom paint. I posted to find out who sold it and some history on the bike, here is what the prior owner of the rune said.

" That's my totaled Rune at Beaverton Honda
Hi All - Just a quick reply to anyone interested. That is my old Rune in the photo. I went down to Beaverton Honda to confirm it. Of course the saleman tried to sell it to me again. He said it had "never been down and didn't have a scratch." I actually scratched it to the tune of $21,500 when it was totaled six months ago. I thought a totaled bike had to have salvage title. Are they crooked, or what??????"
OH SNAP ! Looks like a dealer needs to be reported to the state DMV

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Old 07-25-2012, 07:27 AM   #36
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I can't speak for their motorcycle sales department because I've never bought a bike there.

As for their gear department, I've bought quite a few things and every time I've asked them to price match, from Sidi boots to multiple Shoei helmets, without a hitch the lady said no problem. Additionally they said if it did not fit return it and we'll get the right one. This was a few years back and things have changed, but I've never gotten anything, but great customer service from them.

Same thing on the parts counter, good service. They are overpriced like most dealers, but customer service was there.

Only run in that I had with the service department was trying to take my ZX6R for the regulator recall and they wanted the bike in their hands while they ordered the part. I asked if I could read the vin# to them so they can do it that way and it was not happening. Called Hillsboro Motorsports, read them the vin#, they ordered the part and gave me a call when it was in.

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Old 07-25-2012, 01:30 PM   #37
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Hi All - Just a quick reply to anyone interested. That is my old Rune in the photo. I went down to Beaverton Honda to confirm it. Of course the saleman tried to sell it to me again. He said it had "never been down and didn't have a scratch." I actually scratched it to the tune of $21,500 when it was totaled six months ago. I thought a totaled bike had to have salvage title. Are they crooked, or what??????"
That is FUCKED UP!
But that post is also from 2006.

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Old 07-25-2012, 04:11 PM   #38
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Although they cant get the color scheme I want (the "Born Free"), I'll definitely be ordering my Vortex Flying Tiger through them.
You probably already know this, but in case you don't...the only place you can get the RS-1 in Born Free graphic is from Sportbike Track Gear.

And another to the Bell Star. Best venting helmet I've ever worn. Easiest shield swaps I've seen. Dead stable in head checks and riding in dirty air by semi-trucks. Gonna get the Transitions faceshield for my Star in the near future, but my ST needs new shoes first.

And....if you buy a Vortex, you can buy a Transitions shield and it will also fits the Star if you ever buy one in the future.

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Old 07-25-2012, 04:16 PM   #39
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You probably already know this, but in case you don't...the only place you can get the RS-1 in Born Free graphic is from Sportbike Track Gear.

And another to the Bell Star. Best venting helmet I've ever worn. Easiest shield swaps I've seen. Dead stable in head checks and riding in dirty air by semi-trucks. Gonna get the Transitions faceshield for my Star in the near future, but my ST needs new shoes first.

And....if you buy a Vortex, you can buy a Transitions shield and it will also fits the Star if you ever buy one in the future.
Yeah, but the only time the vortex will see the transitions shield, is if the honey on the back is reallllyyyyy good lookin...



EDIT: Thrasher and others, as for BHY doing questionable stuff, I worked there as a mechanic in the late 80s and they did some pretty shady stuff back then, I've never seen anything over the years to convince me it's ever changed. Out of the 15-20 times I've gone back over the years, probably 13-18 of those times I've left feeling like they are just as bad or worse than ever. (imho... your milage may vary)

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Old 07-26-2012, 08:12 PM   #40
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EDR is not cheap, but they sell a good product / services. BHY may be cheaper the first time you pay, but then when you have to pay AGAIN to have it fixed right... that kinda raises the overall pricce.

SHARP is basically the only realistic testing for how well a helm protects your brain. That's why I like the european standard better than snell. The snell rating for example is fine in that your head will look great, but the problem is, your brain will suffer so many deceleration Gs that you will be a veggie.
(as always just imho)

http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/
Good to know about sharp. I know snelll is still better than DOT.... I believe EDR is a good shop but for example getting a dyno tune. Nels is just as good if not better and he will walk all over their price and definitely quality.

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