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Old 08-30-2012, 10:07 AM   #1
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Parking tickets.
I remember this was a big issue a while back, did they ever do anything? I bought a pass yesterday, and ten minutes later got a ticket. My pass wasn't displayed on bike so is there anything I can do to fight it? Say the wind blew it off or what?

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Old 08-30-2012, 10:36 AM   #2
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Mail in a copy of the stub with the ticket maybe?

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Old 08-30-2012, 10:42 AM   #3
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Mail in a copy of the stub with the ticket maybe?
They no longer provide stubs. When that changed, I think there was the suggestion that you take a photo of your proof of payment with your phone. If that blows away or is stolen, then you have the photo. Otherwise, if you used a credit card, you could show the receipt on the CC statement to show proof of payment.

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Old 08-30-2012, 11:15 AM   #4
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I know I have had issues with that as well. CC payment proof works best they can look up in system and see you were covered in that timeframe. The lady at the desk said it happens all the time to motorcycles.

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Old 08-30-2012, 04:53 PM   #5
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I always take a picture of the parking ticket when I stick it on my bike. But sending in a copy of your credit card statement is the way to go. I'd actually just take it to the courthouse along with the ticket. By all means, do NOT pay the parking ticket! Who knows if you'd ever get the money back!!

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Old 08-30-2012, 07:58 PM   #6
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The city will give you a little plastic pouch with a cable lock on it specifically to put your parking pass in...keeps the honest people from steeling your pass.
All you have to do is call and they'll mail you one or two for free.
I can't remember the number, but I'm sure you can find it on the internet or call the number on the ticket and they can point you in the right direction.
You might even be able to search for the thread about it on this forum...the phone or email is in there someplace.

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Old 08-31-2012, 07:17 AM   #7
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The city will give you a little plastic pouch with a cable lock on it specifically to put your parking pass in...keeps the honest people from steeling your pass.
really? a pouch that you can put a receipt in that the next person cannot take out? That is amazing!

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Old 08-31-2012, 07:54 AM   #8
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Well if you had only learned to read you'd have noticed I stated they keep the honest people out. Not everyone is looking to rip the next guy off you know...or maybe you don't.
And BTW it wasn't my idea, it was another wonderful gift from the city of Portland.
They are a bit better than trying to tape it to your bike (without having any tape) to stick it someplace else on your bike.

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Old 08-31-2012, 08:35 AM   #9
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PBOT motorcycle parking citation cancellation #: 503.823.7733.

Nothing new has been accomplished. Either take a pic of your parking stub that you're leaving on your bike or buy the pass together with the lockable pouch they provide.

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Old 08-31-2012, 04:53 PM   #10
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Or just park in a smart park garage...

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Old 08-31-2012, 07:51 PM   #11
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PBOT motorcycle parking citation cancellation #: 503.823.7733.

Nothing new has been accomplished. Either take a pic of your parking stub that you're leaving on your bike or buy the pass together with the lockable pouch they provide.
Several new layers of bureaucracy have been created along with a few PERS jobs. Success!

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Old 08-31-2012, 09:31 PM   #12
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The only bright spot in this whole parking fiasco, is that the former Parking Manager, who administered this system, was found guilty of taking bribes from the company that started this mess.


Ellis McCoy Pleads Guilty to Bribery Charges



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PORTLAND, Ore. - Former Portland parking manager Ellis McCoy pleaded guilty on Thursday to taking bribes. He could face years in prison along with hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines.

Sentencing will take place in late November.

McCoy, 60, said "yes, it's true" when asked about taking the bribes, which prosecutors said totaled $164,000 over a span of nine years, beginning in 2002 and ending in 2011.

He also pleaded guilty to filing false income tax returns which prosecutors said included "fictitious or overstated" contributions to charities in 2007, 2008 and 2010, among other irregularities, totaling $43,500.

In August of 2011, agents from the FBI and the IRS obtained search warrants and searched McCoy's home in Hillsboro and his city office in Portland.

According to documents filed in U.S. District Court in Portland on August 13, several conspiracy charges were also lodged against McCoy, including taking bribes from two unnamed executives of parking meter companies, one of which is based in Florida.

Background stories on the Ellis McCoy case

McCoy denied he was guilty of accepting bribes in a past interview with KATU News. "Those contracts were solid," he said then. "There's been no deception on my part when I present the information to Council. All of it has been objective."

After the federal government's investigation of McCoy began, Portland officials placed him on administrative leave and began its own investigation. McCoy resigned in 2011.

“As Mayor of a City that holds itself to the strictest fiscal stewardship, transparency, and good government standards, I am personally disappointed by Mr. McCoy’s actions," said Mayor Sam Adams. "Our constituents understandably expect City employees to meet the highest standards of accountability. The acts of this single individual do not reflect the way we do business."

KATU News talked to retired Portland Department of Transportation worker Bill Long who said "it's about time" McCoy's case wrapped up and that he gave public employees a black eye while wasting taxpayer money.

Long said the fact that McCoy got away with taking bribes for nine years shows something's wrong at City Hall and there's no guarantee it won't happen again.

"Ex-directors – they all complained about Ellis and were told, 'Get onboard or you're insubordinate,'" he said. "I just hope the judge realizes how serious it was. I mean we wasted a lot of the taxpayer money on this guy, and if they undo the contracts and get things back to working right, I'll be happy."

Over 570 pages of documents provided by the city as evidence show that McCoy persuaded the City Council to sign off on the contracts and that in some cases he completely ignored rules that were in place when he spent hundreds of thousands of dollars.

McCoy faces a possible maximum total of 24 years in prison and over $1.2 million in fines following his guilty pleas to five charges, but Federal judge Marco Hernandez said Thursday that he will not get the maximum penalty when sentencing takes place Nov. 26 at 10 a.m.

McCoy will be released pending sentencing.

KATU News reporter Thom Jensen contributed to this report.
Hasn't done us a riders any good though. The contracts are still in effect and it doesn't look like they are going to be cancelled any time soon. Truth be told, even if they cancel the contracts, it doesn't necessarily mean that our issue will be resolved.

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Old 09-01-2012, 08:45 AM   #13
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That's right. And that's why the pay-by-phone pilot program that was supposed to take place in Pearl last summer never happened.

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Old 09-01-2012, 12:29 PM   #14
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I always clamp the parking ticket down under my gas cap lock, and then take a clear picture of it with my phone.

Fortunately my bike is a bit heavy and my steering locks. I personally have been told by scooter riders and riders of smaller bikes that people have picked up and moved their bikes out of spots to park, resulting in tickets for not parking their bike in a legit spot. So, maybe take a pic of the bike parked in a proper space. We're legally entitled to a full spot, not just designated motorcycle parking spots.

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Old 09-04-2012, 08:24 AM   #15
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i don't park downtown much at all, but i had jury duty a few weeks ago and parked in a smart park garage. on my way out, i paid at the machine, then rode down to the exit gate. the lady working the exit gate ran over to me and said "next time, don't pay." i was confused, so asked her to clarify. she explained to me that as a general rule, motorcycles in the smart park garages don't pay and just ride around the exit gate on their way out (there's plenty of room for a bike to slip past the gate when it's down). i asked doesn't she go running after these people, or call the police, or photograph the lic place, etc. she just chuckled and said no.

not sure of the validity of her story, but thought i'd pass it along. i thought it was odd that she'd go out of her way to tell me this. anyone else heard this? i don't think i'll be skipping out on payment at the garage anytime soon - with my luck, i'll get the guy who doesn't go by this "policy"...

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Old 09-04-2012, 09:24 AM   #16
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i don't park downtown much at all, but i had jury duty a few weeks ago and parked in a smart park garage. on my way out, i paid at the machine, then rode down to the exit gate. the lady working the exit gate ran over to me and said "next time, don't pay." i was confused, so asked her to clarify. she explained to me that as a general rule, motorcycles in the smart park garages don't pay and just ride around the exit gate on their way out (there's plenty of room for a bike to slip past the gate when it's down). i asked doesn't she go running after these people, or call the police, or photograph the lic place, etc. she just chuckled and said no.

not sure of the validity of her story, but thought i'd pass it along. i thought it was odd that she'd go out of her way to tell me this. anyone else heard this? i don't think i'll be skipping out on payment at the garage anytime soon - with my luck, i'll get the guy who doesn't go by this "policy"...
I have had the gate attendant wave me through when I attempted to pay. I have also had a gate attendant flag me down and tell me to park anywhere I could fit, with the exception of a handicapped spot.

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Old 09-04-2012, 09:38 AM   #17
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I remember this was a big issue a while back, did they ever do anything? I bought a pass yesterday, and ten minutes later got a ticket. My pass wasn't displayed on bike so is there anything I can do to fight it? Say the wind blew it off or what?
You are Probably SOL at this point. But there are things you can do for the future:

1. Pick up a pass holder. I think these are still free and can be picked up from the city building downtown. It's a plastic holder with a wired combo lock on it. It's a pain in the ass to use, but it keeps your Parking Pass safe

2. Always take a photo of the Parking Pass attached to the bike. I got out of a parking ticket because of this.

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Old 09-04-2012, 07:40 PM   #18
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I have one of these that Portland Transportation gave me for free:



My pass is safely locked up every time.

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