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Old 09-07-2012, 06:09 PM   #21
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Officer: Do you know why I pulled you over?
Rider: Becuase you always wanted a bike like this and needed some rider feedback?
Officer: Do you know how fast you were going?
Rider: I do (pause) do you?
Officer: Are you getting smart with me?
Rider: No actually the longer you are with me the dumber I feel.
Officer: Watch it Mister or you will be in alot of trouble
Rider: Watch what and where should I look for it
Officer: That's it I had enough of you
Rider: Cool have a good day (twists throttle and rides off after all the officer said he had enough of him)
Good shit

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Old 09-07-2012, 06:39 PM   #22
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Pay for a lawyer period. The traffic court judge won't believe your story, but if a lawyer tells it and threatens.... Ticket dismissed.

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Old 09-07-2012, 07:02 PM   #23
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Loud pipes save

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Old 09-07-2012, 08:50 PM   #24
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Sounds like the pipe did its job. Just assuming the cop is telling the truth, how freakin' loud is that pipe?

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Old 09-07-2012, 10:25 PM   #25
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1)get a lawyer
2)stop flapping your lips on the Internet.

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Old 09-07-2012, 10:40 PM   #26
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Well if you haven't admitted you were speeding, to beat your exhaust ticket say that your baffles were bad and you repacked them. Take a picture of your old baffle and another that you wrapped for a picture. Stuff your pipes with the packing or switch back to oem for the proof to the judge. A lawyer is a good way to go, but if you admitted you were speeding, you are screwed regardless of your reasons. If you look good on paper, bring your brt or whatever motorcycle class papers. Explain the situation like in one of our classes, don't admit you were speeding and state that a worn out baffle isn't a accurate form of measuring speed, in a not smart Ass tone. And that you fixed the faulty baffle in question, then show the pictures of the baffle worn/fixed. A lawyer would be useful but I basically told you what they would say to save your Ass.

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Old 09-07-2012, 11:04 PM   #27
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Tom Ellington
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He just got my ticket dismissed up in Longview. WSP in an unmarked car, very questionable stop, he was a no show at court (I imagine he did not want to discuss the questionable details of the stop in front of a judge).

Money well spent.


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Old 09-09-2012, 10:58 AM   #28
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Lots of people commenting on how you shouldn't talk on the interwebs - is there some proof of cops using forum postings as evidence in court, or is this an urban myth?

I'm not lawyer, but I would think it would be very difficult to use something in a forum posting as evidence. How do they tie it to the person they cited? How can they prove that person was the one who typed in the information and not someone else using his computer/account?

On top of all that, it seems like a prosecuter wouldn't go through all the trouble of finding this and proving all this for a stupid speeding ticket case.

But, it'd be interesting to have my assumptions be proven wrong. So, who's got real proof on this? A friend of a friend, one-time things aren't really going to sway my thinking. Anything can happen once. Is this a common practice of the judicial system? Lots of people w/ first hand proof would prove that to me.

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Old 09-09-2012, 11:16 AM   #29
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I Ride: Like a duc wrangler
“ Quote:
Originally Posted by taznhell View Post
Officer: Do you know why I pulled you over?
Rider: Becuase you always wanted a bike like this and needed some rider feedback?
Officer: Do you know how fast you were going?
Rider: I do (pause) do you?
Officer: Are you getting smart with me?
Rider: No actually the longer you are with me the dumber I feel.
Officer: Watch it Mister or you will be in alot of trouble
Rider: Watch what and where should I look for it
Officer: That's it I had enough of you
Rider: Cool have a good day (twists throttle and rides off after all the officer said he had enough of him)
“ Quote:
Originally Posted by taznhell View Post
Cop: I pulled you over becuase you sounded like you were going to fast
Rider: Really that is the second time I heard that I sounded like I was going fast today
Cop: Who else told you that?
Rider: Your kids when I was leaving your wifes bedroom this morning


lawyer up and file a complaint against the pig for unlawful prosecution and harassment without evidence. He / She/ It, will get a slap on the wrist in their record, prolly not pay a dime, but it will help the next guy out in pointing out the Pig is incompetent.

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Old 09-09-2012, 11:17 AM   #30
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There are new motorcycle anti-discrimination laws in Washington. I'd get a lawyer and see what can be done.

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Old 09-16-2012, 08:39 PM   #31
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Received a speeding ticket for doing 65pmh in a 55mph zone as well as a moddified exhaust ticket.

MY BIKE = RED/BLK '06 GSXR 600


MITIGATION HEARING IN A MONTH
Mitigation hearing is where persons who have admitted speeding get to explain why to the judge.
Basically you'll be asking for financial mercy in the hearing; the usual outcome is the fine is reduced by maybe 1/3.

You've already agreed you're guilty of the citation. I wouldn't lawyer-up, it doesn't make cost sense.

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Old 09-16-2012, 09:19 PM   #32
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I Ride: a cruzzer
Hate to say it (actually I'm not) but,
Gawd you are dumb! (Or possibly extremely ignorant on how this all works)
Nothing matters until you hire a lawyer and he does discovery.
Your conversation with the officer is worthless.
Its whats in the report that matters.
I'd tell you more but I will refer to sentence #2.
Get a lawyer and do exactly what he tells you.
Why???
See sentence #2

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Old 09-17-2012, 04:46 AM   #33
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I contested my ticket and had the hearing last week in Pierce County. It was a female judge and she was awesome.

Of the 6 people who were in court, she gave two of us deferrals and dismissed the rest.

It depends on the judge. Keep that in mind.

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Old 09-17-2012, 07:36 AM   #34
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I Ride: 2000 BRP (XR650R)
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I contested my ticket and had the hearing last week in Pierce County. It was a female judge and she was awesome.

Of the 6 people who were in court, she gave two of us deferrals and dismissed the rest.

It depends on the judge. Keep that in mind.
Same judge i had! She rocks!

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Old 09-17-2012, 11:43 AM   #35
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I contested my ticket and had the hearing last week in Pierce County.
Nice, but the OP suggests he has already pleaded guilty to the court.

We know that because he has a hearing date set for a month out -
and a hearing date is set only after the defendant has entered a plea.
Since the hearing is for mitigation, that means he admitted performing the violation(s) to the court.
[You check off one of the plea boxes on the back of ticket, sign it and send it in to the court.]

If this is incorrect, maybe the OP would post up again.


EDIT: Experience w/ WA tickets for myself and son, and observing other cases while waiting.
I saw the OP was from WA, but now realize the ticket is in Oregon; might be different procedures.

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Old 09-17-2012, 12:49 PM   #36
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I Ride: 2006 GSXR 600
being that there was two infractions, "speeding" and "modified exhaust" i chose to do a mitigation over the exhaust because that i am guilty of but WILL explain the circumstances as i just purchased the bike and that was what was on it. i screwed myself because when he was questioning it i even said yes, this is rediculously loud and i am getting it taken off asap. (it's a two bros exhaust)

the speeding i will ask to fight against because how can a cop "ASSUME" that i was traveling in excess of 10mph based on "sound" while he was traveling from the opposite direction on the highway... no radar, no paced speed, nothing other than an assumption ?!?


on a side note - i have not received a traffic ticket of any sort except for a no front license plate (year ago) in almost 10 years

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Old 09-17-2012, 01:15 PM   #37
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Nice, but the OP suggests he has already pleaded guilty to the court.

We know that because he has a hearing date set for a month out -
and a hearing date is set only after the defendant has entered a plea.
Since the hearing is for mitigation, that means he admitted performing the violation(s) to the court.
[You check off one of the plea boxes on the back of ticket, sign it and send it in to the court.]

If this is incorrect, maybe the OP would post up again.


EDIT: Experience w/ WA tickets for myself and son, and observing other cases while waiting.
I saw the OP was from WA, but now realize the ticket is in Oregon; might be different procedures.
I would be very cautious in giving out legal advice, unless you are a lawyer, it is always best to talk with one. If he is cooked, then the Lawyer will tell him that.

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Old 09-17-2012, 04:24 PM   #38
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Tom Ellington
notguiltyagain@aol.com
253-219-3916

He just got my ticket dismissed up in Longview. WSP in an unmarked car, very questionable stop, he was a no show at court (I imagine he did not want to discuss the questionable details of the stop in front of a judge).

Money well spent.


LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES and get you tickets....
It got dismissed because as you said, it was a questionable stop, nothing else. WSP citing officer does not need to be present during a contested hearing. They just have to supply a written affidavit regarding the stop in question.

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Old 09-17-2012, 05:50 PM   #39
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Rule number one: you never know why you were pulled over
#2: always contest, not mitigate you can change to mititgation mid hearing but not the other way around.
#3: pay a traffic lawyer instead of the pigs, it is way more cost effective.

This one sounds really high on the bs meter on the officers part. The part about knowing your speed based on sound... Lol Ive heard it all from these asshats. "what gear was I in officer? I assume you know since you attributed the sound you heard to a particular rpm and therefore speed. What if I was In fourth?" I know for a fact my lawyer could destroy this case but you are out of her range and you also admitted guilt by mitigating. Prepare to get a slight reduction in fine and take it in the ass from insurance for the next three years.

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Old 09-17-2012, 10:36 PM   #40
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I Ride: a cruzzer
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Rule number one: you never know why you were pulled over
#2: always contest, not mitigate you can change to mititgation mid hearing but not the other way around.
#3: pay a traffic lawyer instead of the pigs, it is way more cost effective.

This one sounds really high on the bs meter on the officers part. The part about knowing your speed based on sound... Lol Ive heard it all from these asshats. "what gear was I in officer? I assume you know since you attributed the sound you heard to a particular rpm and therefore speed. What if I was In fourth?" I know for a fact my lawyer could destroy this case but you are out of her range and you also admitted guilt by mitigating. Prepare to get a slight reduction in fine and take it in the ass from insurance for the next three years.
Truth.
Now quit thinking and talking with officers. Let someone ( A LAWYER) do you talking where it matters. In court.
Will not be your last ticket I believe.

Past 6 years I have been cited 32 times. Paid 2. 1 still on my record. Cost $1110 for Prepaid Legal, fines paid $235. Not not paid Apprx. $6000+. Insurance savings and Jail time served, hard to figure but huge I am sure.
Only showed up in court 3 times.
Best learn how to play the game, get out or slow down.

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