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Old 09-16-2012, 10:54 PM   #41
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Not a bad area. The future replacement of Sellwood is coming so that might affect your commute in next few years. Just FYI
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Old 09-17-2012, 03:45 PM   #42
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Living in Beaverton is fine. You have a lot of options for great roads. SE Portland sucks balls. The majority of people who live on the Eastside of the river are retarded, and can't be trusted. You will run into a lot of hipsters and idiots who ride bicycles in the middle of the road going 5 miles per hour. The Eastside mostly consists of lower income, poorly educated slobs. A few areas are okay, but it's not worth the trouble. Welcome to Portland.

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Old 09-19-2012, 11:27 PM   #43
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And those types aren't over here too? Bad stereotype

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Old 09-21-2012, 09:37 AM   #44
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Living in Beaverton is fine. You have a lot of options for great roads. SE Portland sucks balls. The majority of people who live on the Eastside of the river are retarded, and can't be trusted. You will run into a lot of hipsters and idiots who ride bicycles in the middle of the road going 5 miles per hour. The Eastside mostly consists of lower income, poorly educated slobs. A few areas are okay, but it's not worth the trouble. Welcome to Portland.
I personally try to stay away from the west side because of narrow minded, ignorant people like this guy. If you want to be stuck in traffic all day move to the west side. If you want to be close to downtown and even closer to great brew pubs and restaurants, live close in East side.

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Old 09-21-2012, 11:09 AM   #45
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Lots of excellent opinions! Thanks.
I have pretty much settled on the area between Aloha and the river and northwest heights and the northern part of Tigard. I've taken into account commute, rent/property prices, distance to downtown and availability of public transport. Some neighborhoods look better than others, but I'll just have to drive around once I arrive to see for myself.

There is one neighborhood that comes up in my research consistently that is outside of the area described above - Sellwood Moreland within the city limits of Milwaukie. It appears to be just over the river, but the Sellwood bridge would put me west of the river within a minute. How bad would the commute be from there to Central Beaverton?

Google suggests going north to downtown and then hopping on 26. I suspect traffic through downtown and onto the freeways would be painful. Using the Sellwood bridge to cross the river and then jumping on highway 10 is the shortest route, but wonder if the traffic would be lighter.
You might want to stay away from Sellwood for a couple of years until the traffic/bridge/rail situation gets finished.
Oregon and Washington have much different tax structures. Oregon is based mainly on property and income tax while Washington does a lot of their income from registration and other fees.
Portland is close to three counties (tax agencies) Multnomah is by far the most expensive with Washinton (cnty) and Clackamas being much better. You would benefit by looking in Clark (Vancouver WA) or Washington cnty, for cheaper living and lower taxs.
But, like you say, you have to come, drive around and see for yourself.
Welcome to this part of the world.

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if you look at the northwest heights be aware that there will be a few days of snow and ice that results in your not being able to get out of the hills so plan accordingly.

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Old 09-21-2012, 11:35 AM   #46
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First, Lets see some recent photos of your gorgeous girlfriend.

Second, I am glad you are moving back.

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Old 09-21-2012, 11:51 AM   #47
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Welcome to Portland!

My advice would be to come down here and check it out for a few days- that way you can get a feel for the different neighborhoods. I would keep your commute in mind though- traffic here is nothing like the SEA/TAC area but why fight it?

My question is what are you looking for?
Urban? The area around Downtown Beaverton is pretty nice- they have some good eateries and a great farmers market.
Suburban- the area around PCC Sylvannia is nice, close to Portland and B-town and there are a number of ways to get between the two if your good with windy roads.
More Urban? I would say Lower inner SE Portland (Brooklyn, Sellwood) That way you can choose between the Sellwood Bridge, 26 or the "Long way round" (South on 205 to I5 to 217) not for the faint of heart and I wouldnt reccomend it, but I know a lot of people who do it everyday.

Is your employer on the MAX line? If so that would open up a lot of options for you. You could live pretty much anywhwere and just read while they drove you to work.

Motorcycling around Portland is Effing Awesome- It is sooo much easier to get away from the urban areas that Puget Sound. Head out 26, take 47 through the Coast range or up 224 following the Clackamas River for shorter rides- and there is Lolo, Carson and Cougar for longer runs.

My only caveat is that Oregonians are about the worst drivers on earth- and that is after having lived in Seattle (home of the second worst drivers on earth). Be extra careful where lanes merge as this seems very challenging to the locals.

Oh and to counter all the negativity: I LOVE Portland! Tons of stuff to do, so pretty, great people (their driving habits aside) lived here since 1997 and still enjoy every day I am home. Also our beer is better than your watery, over-hopped seattle brew!

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Old 09-21-2012, 12:01 PM   #48
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Cain should move to washington, he would fit in great with the other (insert favorite name here). Sad part is, he isn't that far from the truth though. Tons of dumb fucks out here, its like frogger meets paperboy.

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Old 09-27-2012, 01:44 PM   #49
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I personally try to stay away from the west side because of narrow minded, ignorant people like this guy. If you want to be stuck in traffic all day move to the west side. If you want to be close to downtown and even closer to great brew pubs and restaurants, live close in East side.

I've lived in Portland for over 25 years, so I think I have a good idea of what the different parts of the city are like. I guess I should have been more politically correct with my word choices so your feelings didn't get hurt. I'm sorry I struck a nerve with you, I hope you can move past it and grow.

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Old 09-27-2012, 09:23 PM   #50
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I have made a landing and will begin exploring in the coming days. I have housing for the first 30 days so plenty of time to get acquainted with the area before I make my final decision. Thanks guys for the excellent opinions.

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Old 09-27-2012, 09:27 PM   #51
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First, Lets see some recent photos of your gorgeous girlfriend.

Second, I am glad you are moving back.
Hey, good to hear from you. You already have plenty of her pictures to refer to.

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Old 10-11-2012, 04:56 PM   #52
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Alright guys, I've looked around and have some questions regarding buying a home. I need good realtor recommendations - preferably somebody who's lived here and practiced as a realtor in this area for at least a decade. Feel free to post or just shoot me a PM. It would be great if you specify how you know the person.

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Old 10-11-2012, 06:14 PM   #53
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http://activerain.com/jasonmerritt Jason is a motorcycle guy and has been a realtor to many local riders.

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Old 10-11-2012, 06:43 PM   #54
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Alright guys, I've looked around and have some questions regarding buying a home. I need good realtor recommendations - preferably somebody who's lived here and practiced as a realtor in this area for at least a decade. Feel free to post or just shoot me a PM. It would be great if you specify how you know the person.
OK, I'll bite:
1. what makes you believe you need a realtor?
2. What is "this area"?
3. What are your personal buying demands? not that it's any of my business but that would be the focus of my feedback.

personally I have never felt the need to offer 3-6 percent of a sale/purchase price to a real estate agency but I have accepted that the seller pays their fee. I research the area I want, check the road/tranportation access and schools and any other important issues to me. Then I drive around until I find an area I want; park the bike, walk around, talk to people in the area...they will tell you a lot! Find a place I want and make an offer. What is a realtor going to do for you?
best of luck to you

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Old 10-11-2012, 07:04 PM   #55
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There are realtors that can give you a solid understanding on which neighborhoods are on the upswing, the downswing, and they do their research on upcoming projects that'll affect prices in the area.

Sometimes, 3-6% or less if you find a friend, can save you a lot of hassle in the future.

When we bought it in 2006, there really wasn't wiggle room, but we got 10 back (which we used quite a bit of to pay our friend off), and they paid all fees.

When we sold our house in 2009, after the market crashed, we ended up just barely above breaking even because of the recommendation and awesome house we had.

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Old 10-11-2012, 09:44 PM   #56
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OK, I'll bite:
1. what makes you believe you need a realtor?
2. What is "this area"?
3. What are your personal buying demands? not that it's any of my business but that would be the focus of my feedback.

personally I have never felt the need to offer 3-6 percent of a sale/purchase price to a real estate agency but I have accepted that the seller pays their fee. I research the area I want, check the road/tranportation access and schools and any other important issues to me. Then I drive around until I find an area I want; park the bike, walk around, talk to people in the area...they will tell you a lot! Find a place I want and make an offer. What is a realtor going to do for you?
best of luck to you
Sentor answered your first question pretty well. I am new to the area and have talked to many random people, friends, co-workers and casual acquaintances to help me form my own opinion. I feel consulting with a professional will give me an extra piece of mind. For example, there is a home I like that was reduced by more than 15% this week. I know it's a bad time to sell but wonder if there is anything else going on with that property. Other property prices are reduced with an average of 5%. That's where I feel a realtor will be able to see things that might not be obvious to me.

The area is defined as the greater Portland metro area. As for buying demands, I'll discuss the specifics with the realtor, but I am looking to buy my first home, have the financing lined up and just need somebody to help me find and buy a good home. Thank you for your input.

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Old 10-20-2012, 09:27 PM   #57
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I've lived in Portland for over 25 years, so I think I have a good idea of what the different parts of the city are like. I guess I should have been more politically correct with my word choices so your feelings didn't get hurt. I'm sorry I struck a nerve with you, I hope you can move past it and grow.
Move past it and grow? What kind of new age bulls**t are you into Cain? Do you play the guitar and sing kumbaya too?

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Old 10-22-2012, 07:52 AM   #58
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I am looking to buy my first home, have the financing lined up and just need somebody to help me find and buy a good home. Thank you for your input.
by now you must be buried in houses that meet your desires so what is looking good? hope you find a perfect fit.

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Old 10-23-2012, 12:10 AM   #59
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I have live here my whole life, but have traveled quite a bit in North America and the Caribbean. Portland was an excellent place to grow up, but it has become quite crowded in my opinion, mostly from a traffic standpoint. If you are used to a big city, it will not seem crowded to you, and you might even find it boring, as I have heard that comment from friends who moved here from LA, Chicago, Miami, or New York.
The Pros:
You can drive about 20 minutes from downtown in any direction and be in pretty rural settings with nice roads.
The scenery is pretty unbeatable, lots of gorgeous forest and mountains and fairly mild weather temps. Summer is amazing, very low humidity.
People tend to be friendly to the point that many of my friends from the east coast said they had a hard time adjusting to people smiling at them and saying "Hi". They told me that is uncommon in Baltimore and Philly.
The Cons:
6 months of gray and drizzly, drippy weather...depressing. It wasn't like this when I was a kid, we actually had a winter with snow and ice here. When my dad was a kid, it would get so bad, the Columbia river would freeze over at times.
The commute is every bit as bad as what I have seen when I was in LA for a few months in the 80's. I drive it every day from Gresham (east) to Beaverton (west). For instance, when I make the same drive on my bike early on a Saturday morning (before 8am) to meet friends for a ride in Beaverton, it takes me 35 minutes. After 8am pretty much any day of the week, that time jumps up to 50-60 minutes with traffic moving slowly. Rush hour commutes usually take me 60-90 minutes of bumper to bumper, let the clutch out, roll forward, forearm cramping fun. If you move here and work in Beaverton, live on the West Side. More people than the east side, but no commute.
Even on the east side, it has grown substantial in population. For instance, when I graduated from high school in the early 80's Gresham had a population of around 23,000 people. Today, Gresham has a population of over 110,000 peeps. There has been some annexation of neighborhoods toward Portland, but mostly it is migration of people to the area.
Oregon cagers are the worst drivers I have every experienced in North America (remember I am a native Oregonian saying this)! They have no idea what the hell a turn signal is, they just move from lane to lane whenever they like. Driving my cage or bike doesn't make a difference in this behavior. My lifted Excursion does get their attention better, lol. Like JDMPENN said too, people drive very slow here, especially in the left lane.
If you live on the west side especially in the Beaverton area, you better obey the traffic laws because Beaverton is the most heavily patrolled area I have experienced driving in in my life. If you kick a bush in Beaverton, 10 cops fall out, lol. For instance, the light at the corner of Cedar Hills Blvd and Walker Road is a major intersection in Beaverton. I drive it everyday twice a day. It even has photo radar to enforce the yellow lights, but you know what? A couple days a week, there will be a motorcycle cop parked in the parking lot next to this intersection monitoring it and pulling people over, talk about overkill.
Sorry for being so verbose, but there is one more thing I would like to mention. We will probably not see the traffic situation in the Portland Metro area get any better. One of my friend's father-in-law was the Portland City Planner in the mid 90's and my buddy was able to look at the maps his father-in-law had in his office. These were maps of Portland in 2020 and 2050. He noticed that there were very few changes to the freeway system, especially widening or more lanes, so he asked his father-in-law why this was so. The response was that city planners had "learned" from California's mistakes of making commuting better. He said, "Better freeways just make the city spread out, encourage driving, and increase pollution. We are going to force people onto mass transit by making driving extremely painful." Now don't get me wrong, I am in favor of mass transit and would like to ride it to work and back to miss the gridlock, if it was practical. When you get here, you can ride our Max light rail and see what you think. Here is my experience of commuting via Max, remember my standard commute is 50-60 minutes with slow traffic. When I step on the Max right next to the City Hall in Gresham to the time I step off it right behind my work in Beaverton (next to Murray Blvd), it is 1 hour and 20 minutes plus or minus a couple minutes. This doesn't include 10 minutes to get to or from the Gresham parking area, and the 5 minute walk into work. 2 hours of commute time is my pain limit, so I dumped the mass transit as it is around 3 hours out of my day.
I am sorry to have so many cons, I just wanted to give you good information. This really is a great place to live, and I welcome you and hope you enjoy it. Hopefully, we will get to ride together some time.
~Rhynno

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Old 10-23-2012, 06:34 AM   #60
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Rhyno, thanks for your input. I am looking for a home on the westside to avoid the traffic and long commutes.

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by now you must be buried in houses that meet your desires so what is looking good? hope you find a perfect fit.
I have seen about half a dozen homes already and some looked ok, while others were just horrible. Still looking for the perfect home, though I missed a couple decent once.

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