Don't be a DY DB! - Page 3

CoastRun · 09-30-2012, 07:56 PM

I'm of the opinion that lane sharing (riding at to match speed) is ill advised. If some stuff goes down up ahead, you limit your escape routes by having someone else next to you. Doing that with someone you don't know is especially bad form.

Lane splitting on the other hand I'm all for. When an RV and a mini van match pace on the freeway and create a rolling barricade, it's nice to be able to scoot on by. Just got back from logging a few hundred miles in CA, think I let out a sigh of disappointment upon crossing the OR border.

1badhusky · 09-30-2012, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Texasl

Do not take my disgust at your self centered arrogance as condescension. When a linguist distills out all of the fluff terms you have utilized to justify your impatience with other riders not bowing to your preferences what shines through is the petulant whines of a child.

If you are surprised by the responses from some of the more mature riders on this forum then you are not only petulant and immature, you are also not very observant of the societal norms here, in spite of your three year tenure.

A "linquist?"

I'm sure.

"Mature?" Your name calling is a sure sign of maturity.

As is arguing on the internet, which is why, I'm done on this thread.

I got more validation of my theory than I ever could have asked for. I will now gleefully pass riders whenever and wherever I want and smile as I wonder and hope the rider is Texas the Mature Linguist.

Cervantesj · 09-30-2012, 08:19 PM

Im with you on this one doesnt matter if im in a car or bike I see someone going faster than me I move out of the way and let them through. I always see a motorcycle in the carpool lane with a line of cars behind because the rider feels they own the carpool and don't want to move over for a minute to let everyone by.

smonky · 09-30-2012, 10:31 PM

I was in this exact predicament today. Got stuck behind a convoy of 8 or so cruisers. We were all also stuck behind a dodge neon. The cruisers found a good spot and passed the car on a double yellow. I waited till I got a dashed line to make my pass of the car. They proceeded to ride at their pace for the next 5-10+ miles. Finally I got to a straight where I could see a good ways ahead and went for it passing all of them on a double yellow. I passed the leader and got over with out cutting him off. I entered triple digits to do it.
I'm not even boasting I did it in the first place. I do how ever see the ops point. This crew of cruisers knew hand signals to tighten and adjust their formation but they couldn't pull over in the brake check lane or even in the one passing lane to allow me by? Again understanding the ops original point I think it would/should be common courtesy amongst the biker community to allow another rider by in these type of situations.

BUT I don't agree that passing in the SAME lane is anywhere close to a good idea.

h2oboy · 09-30-2012, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Texasl

In Oregon, as well as Washington, two motorcycles are allowed to operate side by side in the same lane. Overtaking in the same lane is precluded in both states.

This is copied directly from the Oregon Motorcycle and Moped Manual.

"Oregon law allows motorcycles to ride two abreast in a single lane, but this is not a recommended safety practice. Sharing a lane with a car while passing them is commonly known as “lane splitting” and is not legal in Oregon."

Wow bikes magically are right next to each other then they are magically in their garages having the chrome polished?

Oh and this is in the http://www.odot.state.or.us/forms/dmv/6367.pdf

"Oregon law allows one motorcycle or moped rider to pass another using the same lane."

That doesn't look precluded to me.

Show common curtesy. If someone is traveling at a faster rate of speed that I am I let them pass and make every effort to make it as safe as possible for all involved. I don't care if its a sport bike, a cruiser or a station wagon. Being respectful to others on the road only makes the experience more enjoyable for all.

Don't be a douche.....

Cab · 09-30-2012, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by RC51

3-5 miles or 1 mile, anywhere around here is just about enough time for anyone to pass any rider, regardless of being waved by or not. Sure there are the occasional roads that have double yellows for miles and miles. Guess what, it isn't legal to pass there for a reason and I'm not waving you by because I don't give a flying fuck how fast you want to go. I don't want you buzzing by me in my lane because I don't fucking know you, I don't know how you ride, I don't know how you care for your machine, and I simply don't give a fuck what you want.

Originally Posted by Texasl

If you are surprised by the responses from some of the more mature riders on this forum then you are not only petulant and immature, you are also not very observant of the societal norms here, in spite of your three year tenure.

This type of language and attitude does not sound very mature to me. I'm just saying.

R6Roller · 10-01-2012, 12:13 AM

I just can't stand traffic in front of me going way slower than the posted speed limit. (cars mostly, when I have no option to pass, if you're on a bike then I'm most likely passing) Of course just cruising along like the whole world is their personal oyster, oblivious to anyone or anything, oh here is my turn let me almost come to a complete fucking stop and then turn! There are bad riders and bad drivers everywhere. It sucks sometimes, I can't even explain the rage inside of me when someone doesn't use their turn signal. No, I don't believe that there is any help for these inconsiderate asses. Someone is going to cut me off tomorrow, then slow down and turn without signalling.

04cbrf4i · 10-01-2012, 02:41 AM

I personaly don't appreciate having someone fly by me in my lane going
100 plus, espesially if I don't know the rider. Oh wait it's a supermoto it
can't break 100 lol

. I can understand your frustraition but you could
suprise someone and cause them to crash. I had a guy on an orange 636
tailgating me and there were cars ahead of us and as soon as the traffic
cleared I was getting ready to move over for him he goes flying by me in
my lane between me and the center divider, caught him at the light and
gave him the

what a douchebag.

Texasl · 10-01-2012, 05:28 AM

Originally Posted by h2oboy

Wow bikes magically are right next to each other then they are magically in their garages having the chrome polished?

Oh and this is in the http://www.odot.state.or.us/forms/dmv/6367.pdf

"Oregon law allows one motorcycle or moped rider to pass another using the same lane."

That doesn't look precluded to me.

Show common curtesy. If someone is traveling at a faster rate of speed that I am I let them pass and make every effort to make it as safe as possible for all involved. I don't care if its a sport bike, a cruiser or a station wagon. Being respectful to others on the road only makes the experience more enjoyable for all.

Don't be a douche.....

I stand corrected on the overtaking rule in Oregon. Thanks for getting me pointed in the right direction.

(After 58 years of tooling around the world it was about time for me to make a mistake.

)

PeeJay · 10-01-2012, 07:22 AM

Wow, such hurt feefees! Shorter several people in this thread: "How dare you call us out for being douche bags! I'm so offended I'm going to blame you for making me be a douche canoe."

Get the fcuk over yourselves, drop the self righteous bullshit and just grow up already. And stop moving the goalposts - the post was about being courteous, not about laws or rules or the brotherhood. Nor was OP saying or even implying that a rider should "endanger himself" to let him by. Nor did he say he wanted to be blasting along at hyperlegal speeds. Nor did he say anyone had any obligation to wave a rider by, it was only about being courteous. Which concept you dbags apparently just don't get.

tl;dr: STFU already

Buick_65 · 10-01-2012, 07:47 AM

I'm so confused. I wish Donnie would tell me what the right answer is....

Cain · 10-01-2012, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by 1badhusky

I'm pretty annoyed that I've been caught behind so many this year who apparently can't be bothered. It never seems to be the sportbikers - always someone on a Harely or a standard bike.

It just takes a sec to move over and let someone pass who wants to go faster, seems like it shouldn't ever be an issue, but it is. If I'm behind someone for a few turns and they don't wave me by or move over, they get placed in the same category as cars, bicyclist, deer, and gravel...crap that needs to be avoided and or passed. When I'm in my car, and someone wants to pass me, bike or another car, I move over...because it takes a second to do so, and it makes them happy. Most times I get a wave or a piece sign.

To each his own I guess, but if you are a d-bag all the time and can't take a second to be cool, don't be surprised if you make babies cry, or your loved one leaves you.

yamadogger · 10-01-2012, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Silver788

Final score from Seattle, Oregon 51, Washington State 26.

OOHH and no one in Oregon was stupid enough to get porked to death by a horse!!! Talk about a bunch of FUCKING morons!! Dont hate on my state!!

HAH. Oh dear god. this post made my day

taznhell · 10-01-2012, 09:44 AM

I waved a guy on a cbr by couple weeks ago. He promptly went off the road in a 25mph corner. I had to stop help him pick the bike up and made sure he was OK.

dwschultzy · 10-01-2012, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by Buick_65

I'm so confused. I wish Donnie would tell me what the right answer is....

I just say fuck it and pass the guys in the same lane. No reason to wait for a signal, just do it.

They'll either get the hint and pay attention to others coming up behind them.
or
They get really really pissed and try and catch me.

nancejd · 10-01-2012, 11:14 AM

What's so hard about moving to the right and giving a wave? You pick the time and place where you feel safe, and let the other guy go by. I'd rather wave someone by where I'm comfortable, than have them pass me anyway where its their choice. If I can let someone pass and let them be on their way I will, I don't feel any need to impede them.

What if we're talking about the carpool lane? Does it really make you feel unsafe having someone you're aware of going by you in the same lane?

Cain · 10-01-2012, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by nancejd

what's so hard about moving to the right and giving a wave? You pick the time and place where you feel safe, and let the other guy go by. I'd rather wave someone by where i'm comfortable, than have them pass me anyway where its their choice. If i can let someone pass and let them be on their way i will, i don't feel any need to impede them.

What if we're talking about the carpool lane? Does it really make you feel unsafe having someone you're aware of going by you in the same lane?

Squiddly Van Dickweed · 10-01-2012, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Silver788

Final score from Seattle, Oregon 51, Washington State 26.

OOHH and no one in Oregon was stupid enough to get porked to death by a horse!!! Talk about a bunch of FUCKING morons!! Dont hate on my state!!

Awsome!!! (typing "F-ed to death by a horse" in Google...)

And to the OP - I kind of agree - lots of d-bags on hogs riding in large groups going way too slow. Some people see this as an excuse to practice wheelies as they pass.

Gootmacher · 10-01-2012, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Squiddly Van Dickweed

Awsome!!! (typing "F-ed to death by a horse" in Google...)

And to the OP - I kind of agree - lots of d-bags on hogs riding in large groups going way too slow. Some people see this as an excuse to practice wheelies as they pass.

Well when some people wheelie past large groups of hogs im sure they look over at the hogs as they go by to make sure the pass is safe and legal. The same goes for multiple minivans full of children, I think theres a video of that somewhere

NakedPilot · 10-01-2012, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by taznhell

I waved a guy on a cbr by couple weeks ago. He promptly went off the road in a 25mph corner. I had to stop help him pick the bike up and made sure he was OK.

Definitely something to think about. Maybe if someone rides up behind you, they aren't necessarily ready to pass you, "waving them on" might urge them into pass before THEY are ready.


09-30-2012, 07:56 PM	#41
CoastRun Permit Joined: Aug 2012 From: Tillamook	I'm of the opinion that lane sharing (riding at to match speed) is ill advised. If some stuff goes down up ahead, you limit your escape routes by having someone else next to you. Doing that with someone you don't know is especially bad form. Lane splitting on the other hand I'm all for. When an RV and a mini van match pace on the freeway and create a rolling barricade, it's nice to be able to scoot on by. Just got back from logging a few hundred miles in CA, think I let out a sigh of disappointment upon crossing the OR border. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-30-2012, 08:19 PM	#43
Cervantesj Permit Joined: Jan 2011 From: Washington I Ride: Yamaha 2007 R1	Im with you on this one doesnt matter if im in a car or bike I see someone going faster than me I move out of the way and let them through. I always see a motorcycle in the carpool lane with a line of cars behind because the rider feels they own the carpool and don't want to move over for a minute to let everyone by. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-30-2012, 10:31 PM	#44
smonky Licensed Joined: May 2010 From: Vancouver WA I Ride: slow, according to Jenn	I was in this exact predicament today. Got stuck behind a convoy of 8 or so cruisers. We were all also stuck behind a dodge neon. The cruisers found a good spot and passed the car on a double yellow. I waited till I got a dashed line to make my pass of the car. They proceeded to ride at their pace for the next 5-10+ miles. Finally I got to a straight where I could see a good ways ahead and went for it passing all of them on a double yellow. I passed the leader and got over with out cutting him off. I entered triple digits to do it. I'm not even boasting I did it in the first place. I do how ever see the ops point. This crew of cruisers knew hand signals to tighten and adjust their formation but they couldn't pull over in the brake check lane or even in the one passing lane to allow me by? Again understanding the ops original point I think it would/should be common courtesy amongst the biker community to allow another rider by in these type of situations. BUT I don't agree that passing in the SAME lane is anywhere close to a good idea. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-01-2012, 12:13 AM	#47
R6Roller Peg Dragger Joined: Apr 2010 From: Olympia, WA Blog Entries: 1 I Ride: Yamaha.	I just can't stand traffic in front of me going way slower than the posted speed limit. (cars mostly, when I have no option to pass, if you're on a bike then I'm most likely passing) Of course just cruising along like the whole world is their personal oyster, oblivious to anyone or anything, oh here is my turn let me almost come to a complete fucking stop and then turn! There are bad riders and bad drivers everywhere. It sucks sometimes, I can't even explain the rage inside of me when someone doesn't use their turn signal. No, I don't believe that there is any help for these inconsiderate asses. Someone is going to cut me off tomorrow, then slow down and turn without signalling. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by R6Roller; 10-01-2012 at 12:16 AM..


10-01-2012, 02:41 AM	#48
04cbrf4i Endorsed Joined: Feb 2011 From: clackamas I Ride: cbr600f4i	I personaly don't appreciate having someone fly by me in my lane going 100 plus, espesially if I don't know the rider. Oh wait it's a supermoto it can't break 100 lol. I can understand your frustraition but you could suprise someone and cause them to crash. I had a guy on an orange 636 tailgating me and there were cars ahead of us and as soon as the traffic cleared I was getting ready to move over for him he goes flying by me in my lane between me and the center divider, caught him at the light and gave him the what a douchebag. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-01-2012, 07:22 AM	#50
PeeJay Licensed Joined: Aug 2007 From: Portland, OR I Ride: SV1000S in the faster copper color, and a hell of a lot slower than I used to.	Wow, such hurt feefees! Shorter several people in this thread: "How dare you call us out for being douche bags! I'm so offended I'm going to blame you for making me be a douche canoe." Get the fcuk over yourselves, drop the self righteous bullshit and just grow up already. And stop moving the goalposts - the post was about being courteous, not about laws or rules or the brotherhood. Nor was OP saying or even implying that a rider should "endanger himself" to let him by. Nor did he say he wanted to be blasting along at hyperlegal speeds. Nor did he say anyone had any obligation to wave a rider by, it was only about being courteous. Which concept you dbags apparently just don't get. tl;dr: STFU already __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by PeeJay; 10-02-2012 at 07:00 AM..


10-01-2012, 07:47 AM	#51
Buick_65 Peg Dragger Joined: Mar 2008 From: Poulsbo, WA I Ride: CBR 954, WR250X, SV650	I'm so confused. I wish Donnie would tell me what the right answer is.... __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-01-2012, 09:44 AM	#54
taznhell Shredder Joined: Jul 2008 From: Cornelius, Oregon I Ride: Everyday	I waved a guy on a cbr by couple weeks ago. He promptly went off the road in a 25mph corner. I had to stop help him pick the bike up and made sure he was OK. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-01-2012, 11:14 AM	#56
nancejd Peg Dragger Joined: Jul 2007 From: Snohomish, WA I Ride: 2007 ZX10R, 1981 CB750, 1977 TS250	What's so hard about moving to the right and giving a wave? You pick the time and place where you feel safe, and let the other guy go by. I'd rather wave someone by where I'm comfortable, than have them pass me anyway where its their choice. If I can let someone pass and let them be on their way I will, I don't feel any need to impede them. What if we're talking about the carpool lane? Does it really make you feel unsafe having someone you're aware of going by you in the same lane? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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