Don't be a DY DB! - Page 4

DullJack · 10-01-2012, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by NakedPilot

Definitely something to think about. Maybe if someone rides up behind you, they aren't necessarily ready to pass you, "waving them on" might urge them into pass before THEY are ready.

If you are waving someone past, you do have some responsibility to make sure the way is clear for them...but beyond that, what can you do?

Edit: I have had guys shake my wave-on off because they were getting ready to turn off soon or they didn't feel safe/confident...but it's all up to the individual rider. I just assume it's courteous to wave them by if it's clear and they seem to be moving quicker than me, doesn't mean they have to take it.

expensivehobby22 · 10-11-2012, 09:12 AM

I'm still a newbie riding street, and I'd say that I am overly aware of what's behind me because I am sometimes slow of slow on twisty roads. I have pulled over on multiple occasions to let cars and bikes by, but sometimes it's not really safe or easy to do either. So, ultimately, I feel that it is the responsibility of the person looking to pass.

nancejd · 10-11-2012, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by expensivehobby22

I'm still a newbie riding street, and I'd say that I am overly aware of what's behind me because I am sometimes slow of slow on twisty roads. I have pulled over on multiple occasions to let cars and bikes by, but sometimes it's not really safe or easy to do either. So, ultimately, I feel that it is the responsibility of the person looking to pass.

We're not talking about pulling over and stopping. the issue here is moving to the side in your own lane, and waving the other rider past you in the same lane. Just picking a relatively straight portion of road, and letting them be on their merry way, without forcing them into oncoming traffic to pass. It isn't legal, but seriously who cares? You pick a place where you're comfortable, and stop holding someone else up.

You ride your ride, they ride theirs, and everyone is happy.

cgt1229 · 10-11-2012, 03:09 PM

I'm with the original poster. Be aware if you're holding up traffic, it's illegal.

I did an RV road trip to Michigan this summer, I did two years prior on a bike.

I passed 2 motorcycles in a 25' RV heading into Cody Wyoming.

If you're getting past by an RV on a motorcycle, you're doing something wrong.

CoastRun · 10-11-2012, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by expensivehobby22

I'm still a newbie riding street, and I'd say that I am overly aware of what's behind me because I am sometimes slow of slow on twisty roads. I have pulled over on multiple occasions to let cars and bikes by, but sometimes it's not really safe or easy to do either. So, ultimately, I feel that it is the responsibility of the person looking to pass.

Sorry, I'm really not trying to sound like an ass. But if you don't feel comfortable enough to navigate stretches of road at speed, then you probably shouldn't be riding them in the first place. Find an alternate route or practice somewhere you won't be impeding traffic until you feel comfortable enough to ride these roads.

rabidrabbit2727 · 10-13-2012, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by CoastRun

Sorry, I'm really not trying to sound like an ass. But if you don't feel comfortable enough to navigate stretches of road at speed, then you probably shouldn't be riding them in the first place. Find an alternate route or practice somewhere you won't be impeding traffic until you feel comfortable enough to ride these roads.

When I first started riding, I held up cars on some twisty sections of road. I'm glad I didn't approach riding with the idea that I would be in the wrong unless I rode as fast as the guy behind me thought I should. It's a road, not a racetrack, and if riding 20 in a 25 keeps someone out of a ditch when they're new, I'm all for it.

CoastRun · 10-13-2012, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by rabidrabbit2727

When I first started riding, I held up cars on some twisty sections of road. I'm glad I didn't approach riding with the idea that I would be in the wrong unless I rode as fast as the guy behind me thought I should. It's a road, not a racetrack, and if riding 20 in a 25 keeps someone out of a ditch when they're new, I'm all for it.

I'm not talking about speeding 20 over, just being able to ride at speed limit or flow of traffic. Holding up a line of frustrated cagers behind you while you mosey around some turns is an incredibly stupid thing to do, especially on a motorcycle. You're just asking for trouble.

h2oboy · 10-14-2012, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by nancejd

Just picking a relatively straight portion of road, and letting them be on their merry way, without forcing them into oncoming traffic to pass. It isn't legal, but seriously who cares?

I don't know about in Wa. but in Oregon it IS legal for motorcycles to pass each other in the same lane.

FlyingFinn · 10-14-2012, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by h2oboy

I don't know about in Wa. but in Oregon it IS legal for motorcycles to pass each other in the same lane.

I have encountered quite a few slow turds on bikes in the carpool lane on my commute this year.. when I come up on one, I wait a minute to see what they are going to do.. I do pass them if they continue to hold up the flow. whether it be in the next lane or there lane Mind you it is illegal in Washington for two vehicles to pass in the same lane, including motorcycles.

Thank goodness the rain is here so all the squids , RuB's and pirates will stay off the road ..

1badhusky · 10-20-2012, 06:49 PM

1,800 views and 68 comments...good...maybe this thread actually woke up some people to how annoying they are!

mikeames · 10-20-2012, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by 1badhusky

1,800 views and 68 comments...good...maybe this thread actually woke up some people to how annoying they are!

Amen!

Cyclotron · 10-22-2012, 03:24 PM

Oh sorry bro, I have been guilty of this and didn't realize I was being a doucher, I'll wave you by next time.

Ameh · 11-10-2012, 08:28 AM

whoa...

Oregon law may allow motorcycles to pass in the same lane but that does NOT give up the right of a motorcyclist in front to give up their entire lane. This law is misleading. Since you can ride abreast you must be able to pass and if the courtesy is given by the rider in front then you can pass in the same lane. The key here is communication. You don't just pass someone in the same lane without communication, that is stupid. Similar to formation flying. You never roll up under someones wing without talking to them first. People will die unnecessarily.

Here is what I gathered (as a new street rider) from this thread.

1. If you notice someone behind you (and you should at some point) be courteous and wave the by when you feel it is safe for YOU. If you hold someone back on purpose, you are a douche.

2. If you insist on passing someone in a no passing zone because you think they are holding you up, you are a douche. Especially if they are at the posted limit. Don't rely on the opinion of others on this forum to clear your conscious. Just do it and move on with your life.

You can read #2 "If you pass in a double yellow, you are not necessarily a douche. If you pass someone in a double yellow like an asshole because you are thinking they are doing it on purpose, you are a douche." If they are doing it on purpose, they are a douche and you are clear of doucheness, but you can't know that just from rolling up behind them

I let bikes go by all the time in double yellows in my car. Never had to let one go by on my bike, but I will at some point given I can't ride like a sport bike. No one needs to be a douche.

Ryan


10-11-2012, 09:12 AM	#62
expensivehobby22 Training Wheels Joined: Jan 2012 From: Beaverton, Or	I'm still a newbie riding street, and I'd say that I am overly aware of what's behind me because I am sometimes slow of slow on twisty roads. I have pulled over on multiple occasions to let cars and bikes by, but sometimes it's not really safe or easy to do either. So, ultimately, I feel that it is the responsibility of the person looking to pass. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-11-2012, 03:09 PM	#64
cgt1229 Endorsed Joined: May 2012 From: Bellingham I Ride: '83 Katana	I'm with the original poster. Be aware if you're holding up traffic, it's illegal. I did an RV road trip to Michigan this summer, I did two years prior on a bike. I passed 2 motorcycles in a 25' RV heading into Cody Wyoming. If you're getting past by an RV on a motorcycle, you're doing something wrong. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-20-2012, 06:49 PM	#70
1badhusky Endorsed Joined: Jul 2009 From: portland, or	1,800 views and 68 comments...good...maybe this thread actually woke up some people to how annoying they are! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-22-2012, 03:24 PM	#72
Cyclotron Endorsed Joined: Oct 2012 From: Rock Creek/North Hillsboro I Ride: 2008 VERY green Ninja 250	Oh sorry bro, I have been guilty of this and didn't realize I was being a doucher, I'll wave you by next time. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-10-2012, 08:28 AM	#73
Ameh Newbie Joined: Nov 2012 From: Hillsboro, OR I Ride: 1996 Honda Magna	Misleading whoa... Oregon law may allow motorcycles to pass in the same lane but that does NOT give up the right of a motorcyclist in front to give up their entire lane. This law is misleading. Since you can ride abreast you must be able to pass and if the courtesy is given by the rider in front then you can pass in the same lane. The key here is communication. You don't just pass someone in the same lane without communication, that is stupid. Similar to formation flying. You never roll up under someones wing without talking to them first. People will die unnecessarily. Here is what I gathered (as a new street rider) from this thread. 1. If you notice someone behind you (and you should at some point) be courteous and wave the by when you feel it is safe for YOU. If you hold someone back on purpose, you are a douche. 2. If you insist on passing someone in a no passing zone because you think they are holding you up, you are a douche. Especially if they are at the posted limit. Don't rely on the opinion of others on this forum to clear your conscious. Just do it and move on with your life. You can read #2 "If you pass in a double yellow, you are not necessarily a douche. If you pass someone in a double yellow like an asshole because you are thinking they are doing it on purpose, you are a douche." If they are doing it on purpose, they are a douche and you are clear of doucheness, but you can't know that just from rolling up behind them I let bikes go by all the time in double yellows in my car. Never had to let one go by on my bike, but I will at some point given I can't ride like a sport bike. No one needs to be a douche. Ryan __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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