Deadly Crash in Hillsboro - Page 2

Desvio · 10-11-2012, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by bryawn

What a bummer. I always wonder about distracted driving (playing with cell phone, radio, AC etc.) in cases like this. Hope police investigate thoroughly and press charges. Not acceptable.

RIP rider

This was just in the news today.

Deputies: Couple using cell phone camera led to deadly crash

BENTON COUNTY, OR (KPTV) -

A man and woman are facing charges for a deadly crash after deputies said they were using a cell phone to take photos before losing control of their van.

Investigators said Veronica Diaz, 28, of Corvallis, was driving south on Highway 99W near milepost 95 in Benton County on Sept. 30. The van crossed into the northbound lane and hit a motorcyclist.

Kenneth Carroll, 72, of Eugene, was pronounced dead at the scene.

mfrankpdx · 10-11-2012, 01:20 PM

Vehicles failing to yield the right of way when turning left is the most common type of multiple vehicle accidents involving motorcycles, and it's not just due to driver inattentiveness. The profile of you and your motorcycle from the front is very narrow, so it is not easy for others to determine your distance and speed when approaching them, especially in low light conditions. We should keep that in mind, and be wary of our bias before making judgements. This is certainly a tragedy, but the best course of action is for us to be more vigilant when riding.

Transported · 10-11-2012, 01:34 PM

Wow, speed was not believed to be a factor. That's a first.

Wiggledbits · 10-11-2012, 03:34 PM

Cites need to be smarter about traffic control too. When I lived in Vancouver they had a bunch of left turn lights with the arrow. You would get a green arrow BUT you were supposed to yield to oncoming traffic. I know still the driver needs to yield right a way but those lights were asking for trouble. The wording in the article sounded a bit like those lights.

RIP rider.

Squiddly Van Dickweed · 10-11-2012, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by mfrankpdx

Vehicles failing to yield the right of way when turning left is the most common type of multiple vehicle accidents involving motorcycles, and it's not just due to driver inattentiveness. The profile of you and your motorcycle from the front is very narrow, so it is not easy for others to determine your distance and speed when approaching them, especially in low light conditions. We should keep that in mind, and be wary of our bias before making judgements. This is certainly a tragedy, but the best course of action is for us to be more vigilant when riding.

^^^This^^^ Well said.

smonky · 10-11-2012, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Transported

Wow, speed was not believed to be a factor. That's a first.

damn it, i was gonna say the same thing

r.i.p. to the rider and his family.

ddonacazx12 · 10-11-2012, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Desvio

Sounds like manslaughter to me...

it was.... but they'll let her off without so much as a traffic ticket.

just like applebees, just like west union, just like...

patz · 10-11-2012, 07:16 PM

So sad R.I.P. Rider

UglyBaldMan · 10-11-2012, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by ashfoot

Investigators do not believe drugs, alcohol or speed were factors in the crash.

What about a cell phone, make-up, or food???

RIP rider.

Danny zxr · 10-11-2012, 08:17 PM

So SAD... D-:

Motoguy · 10-11-2012, 09:17 PM

This is getting too common. Cagers need to be held responsible for accidents like this. Thoughts and prayers out for the rider and family.

DaveS · 10-11-2012, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by Desvio

Sounds like manslaughter to me...

This

DaveS · 10-11-2012, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by 1shinysideup

tragic.

"didn't see him." I hope the drivers repeats those words for the rest of his / her life and thinks about that moment.

R.I.P

This

DaveS · 10-11-2012, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by mfrankpdx

Vehicles failing to yield the right of way when turning left is the most common type of multiple vehicle accidents involving motorcycles, and it's not just due to driver inattentiveness. The profile of you and your motorcycle from the front is very narrow, so it is not easy for others to determine your distance and speed when approaching them, especially in low light conditions. We should keep that in mind, and be wary of our bias before making judgements. This is certainly a tragedy, but the best course of action is for us to be more vigilant when riding.

Yes on vigilance...
how bout a little from
the cageers...
How wide is the profile
on a pedestrian or child...?
Just askin"...

DaveS · 10-11-2012, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Motoguy

This is getting too common. Cagers need to be held responsible for accidents like this. Thoughts and prayers out for the rider and family.

Yes!

DaveS · 10-11-2012, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Tromatic

Yet another reason to make sure your family and friends know you love them. You might not get another chance to tell them.

Yes always

no splat matt · 10-11-2012, 11:19 PM

RIP rider.
Brothers and sisters, please be vigilent. Cover your front brake at all times. Look those cagers in the eyes. Look at their wheels, look for intent. Look for outs. Slow down and expect the idiot to be an idiot. Ride safe.
So sad...

Daves02r6 · 10-12-2012, 02:49 AM

Horrible accident,, RIP rider. So many this year. All who are on this site or not,, no matter. Nothing worse than hearing the sad news. No I have not rode much at all lately. But have heard about too many simple situations that led to a riders death due to a cager. Have taken my daughters out on short rides to show them the freedom and why I like bikes. It is eating at me day by day to not ever take my girls for a ride. For they should have a full life. Dad wants to show them a part of his life,,,,,,,,,,,,should not be a thing that could take their life. I love my girls big time. It is getting to the point right now it is not worth it !

Cyclotron · 10-12-2012, 09:40 AM

Ok....I feel really bad for our fellow motorcyclist but I just don't understand the whole "I judt didnt see him!" only being the responsibility of the motorist.

Why didn't the motorcyclist see the left turner?

galenernest · 10-12-2012, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by Cyclotron

Ok....I feel really bad for our fellow motorcyclist but I just don't understand the whole "I judt didnt see him!" only being the responsibility of the motorist.

Why didn't the motorcyclist see the left turner?

The motorcyclist had the right-of-way. That's the simple answer. Maybe there was more the motorcyclist could have done to avoid the accident, maybe not. But the motorist took his right away from him, and his life.


10-11-2012, 01:20 PM	#22
mfrankpdx Retired Joined: Jul 2007 From: Washington DC I Ride: Speed Triple	Vehicles failing to yield the right of way when turning left is the most common type of multiple vehicle accidents involving motorcycles, and it's not just due to driver inattentiveness. The profile of you and your motorcycle from the front is very narrow, so it is not easy for others to determine your distance and speed when approaching them, especially in low light conditions. We should keep that in mind, and be wary of our bias before making judgements. This is certainly a tragedy, but the best course of action is for us to be more vigilant when riding. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-11-2012, 01:34 PM	#23
Transported Moto2 Contender Joined: Dec 2006 From: Portland, Oregon Blog Entries: 1 I Ride: '06 FZ1, '99 R1, '80 Suz GS450S	Wow, speed was not believed to be a factor. That's a first. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-11-2012, 03:34 PM	#24
Wiggledbits Endorsed Joined: Jun 2010 From: Portland, OR I Ride: BMW R1100S Ducati 750S Ducati 750SS Suzuki DR 600	Cites need to be smarter about traffic control too. When I lived in Vancouver they had a bunch of left turn lights with the arrow. You would get a green arrow BUT you were supposed to yield to oncoming traffic. I know still the driver needs to yield right a way but those lights were asking for trouble. The wording in the article sounded a bit like those lights. RIP rider. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-11-2012, 07:16 PM	#28
patz Endorsed Joined: Dec 2009 From: tigard I Ride: 07 Triumph Bonneville	So sad R.I.P. Rider __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-11-2012, 08:17 PM	#30
Danny zxr Training Wheels Joined: Dec 2011 From: Zillah WA I Ride: Ninja	So SAD... D-: __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-11-2012, 09:17 PM	#31
Motoguy Training Wheels Joined: Aug 2011 From: Portland, OR I Ride: 07 R6, 07 FZ6, 03 XR 400, 06 CRF 250F, 73 Hodaka Combat Wombat, 71 Hodaka ACE 100 B+ 69 Yamaha DT 250, 1972-1974 Yamaha RT2, RT3, DT 360	This is getting too common. Cagers need to be held responsible for accidents like this. Thoughts and prayers out for the rider and family. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-11-2012, 11:19 PM	#37
no splat matt Permit Joined: Jul 2010 From: beaverton, OR I Ride: cause I'm too lazy to walk	RIP rider. Brothers and sisters, please be vigilent. Cover your front brake at all times. Look those cagers in the eyes. Look at their wheels, look for intent. Look for outs. Slow down and expect the idiot to be an idiot. Ride safe. So sad... __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-12-2012, 02:49 AM	#38
Daves02r6 Licensed Joined: Jun 2007 From: Tigard I Ride: 02 R6	Horrible accident,, RIP rider. So many this year. All who are on this site or not,, no matter. Nothing worse than hearing the sad news. No I have not rode much at all lately. But have heard about too many simple situations that led to a riders death due to a cager. Have taken my daughters out on short rides to show them the freedom and why I like bikes. It is eating at me day by day to not ever take my girls for a ride. For they should have a full life. Dad wants to show them a part of his life,,,,,,,,,,,,should not be a thing that could take their life. I love my girls big time. It is getting to the point right now it is not worth it ! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-12-2012, 09:40 AM	#39
Cyclotron Endorsed Joined: Oct 2012 From: Rock Creek/North Hillsboro I Ride: 2008 VERY green Ninja 250	Ok....I feel really bad for our fellow motorcyclist but I just don't understand the whole "I judt didnt see him!" only being the responsibility of the motorist. Why didn't the motorcyclist see the left turner? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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