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TaurusRacing · 06-28-2009, 12:27 PM

Well, some great racing again. WSBK always delivers entertainment. I am extremely happy for Spies but really sorry for Haga. I hope he is not injured after that get-off. I couldn't believe how many crashes in both Race 2 and WSS.

It was also nice to see so many Brits do well on there home course. With the points they way they are after this weekend it is going to get really good with Spies, Haga, and Fabrizio.

theJrod · 06-28-2009, 01:47 PM

Hopkins was most impressive during race 1. Riding with a recently broken hip, and finishing top-10 on a bike he still has relatively little time on.

Haga I think got tired of riding conservatively, and threw it away. It will be interesting to see how/if that changes his strategy for the remainder of the season. Spies really is that good - no doubt the best rider in the series now.

The AMA talent sure didn't show up. Neither Hacker or Young could make it into the top-20 for race 1, and Hacker crashed out of race 2, which Young scoring a 16th (but would surely be outside the top-20 had everyone else not crashed out).

750Rider · 06-28-2009, 02:24 PM

From:bikesportnews.com

Xerox Ducati's Noriyuki Haga is to undergo surgery on a fractured vertebrae he suffered during a horror crash at Coppice Corner during the second World Superbike race at Donington Park.

The Japanese rider was airflifted to Derby hospital where a team of surgeons will carry out surgery on his back injury and also evaluate a possible broken wrist and shoulder blade.

More information when we have it

TaurusRacing · 06-28-2009, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by 750Rider

From:bikesportnews.com

Xerox Ducati's Noriyuki Haga is to undergo surgery on a fractured vertebrae he suffered during a horror crash at Coppice Corner during the second World Superbike race at Donington Park.

The Japanese rider was airflifted to Derby hospital where a team of surgeons will carry out surgery on his back injury and also evaluate a possible broken wrist and shoulder blade.

More information when we have it

Now that really sucks!!!! Damn, I didn't want him to lose the Championship because of injuries.

NoQuarter#121 · 06-28-2009, 03:44 PM

GO Haga!!!

Man I hope he can continue...

I really wanted him to win this year.

Spies is young, he has plenty of time to get a world championship.

Though I don't think he will factor once he goes to GP.

750Rider · 06-28-2009, 04:08 PM

I hope haga recovers quickly. I want spies to win but I don't want a blow out either, which will happen if Haga doesn't get back to racing in the next few races

fastfoodfred · 06-28-2009, 04:10 PM

I wish Haga the best. He is a living legend in SBK.

750Rider · 06-28-2009, 04:21 PM

Good news has emerged from the Derby Royal Infirmary regarding the condition of Ducati Xerox rider Noriyuki Haga. A further CT scan on the Japanese rider revealed that what were thought to be fractures of the T8 and T9 vertebrae could actually be the remains of a previous incident. This immediately brought a halt to the scheduled operation.

"This is good news" declared team manager Davide Tardozzi, "but of course it needs to be confirmed tomorrow, Monday. Nori will for sure undergo an operation on the ulna bone of his right forearm, because it is a displaced fracture and there is also a suspected fracture of the scapula (shoulder blade) bone. It is clear however that if he really doesn't need to have an operation to the vertebrae he could get away with a month's rest".

TaurusRacing · 06-28-2009, 04:32 PM

Thanks for the updates 750. Man I wish Haga the best. Just like Alister said...I wish Haga could win just one WSBK. Spies has lots of time to win this series.

Boy did anyone notice that stupid ass move Biaggi did when he went down and decided to "merge" without looking and smacked into someone? What a tool. Great for him taking second in race 1 but damn dude! Be a little smarter.

PeteN95 · 06-28-2009, 08:34 PM

If anyone can keep raing with those injuries, it's Haga, but a broken wrist and shoulder are a lot even without the vertebra. I wish him luck, but also Ben, who did a fantastic job today.

fastfoodfred · 06-29-2009, 05:50 AM

You guys are really class acts. I am proud to be part of our sport.

Good for Haga. Less bad news is always good news.

JCoulter · 06-29-2009, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by TaurusRacing

Boy did anyone notice that stupid ass move Biaggi did when he went down and decided to "merge" without looking and smacked into someone? What a tool. Great for him taking second in race 1 but damn dude! Be a little smarter.

I saw that and was absolutely floored. He did a brief scan as he was hopping back aboard the bike, but then had to turn it around before rejoining the track and didn't bother to check again to make sure that no one had come around the corner. Total idiot move and he should be penalized for it.

Well done to Ben Spies. I may not like him much as an individual, but he is a world class rider and definitely the class of the WSBK field.

I was very sad to see Nori crash out. I really want to see him finally take the championship that he so richly deserves. Glad to hear that the back is not as bad as they first thought and I look forward to seeing him back on the bike as soon as possible.

Blake Young did a tremendous job on the Suzuki. He was battling with Kagayama, who has ridden the WSBK spec Suzuki for years on these tracks.

GixxerPete · 06-29-2009, 09:07 AM

Bummer about Haga, but at least the prognosis is a lot better than originally thought. He may not be out for the season, but this probably ends his championship hopes.

Awesome to see Biaggi and the Aprilia doing so well in race one, but it almost ended in tears after Biaggi's "merging" incident. I hope Max & the Aprilia continue to be fast, someone's gotta keep Spies honest while Haga is out.

Tdawg · 06-29-2009, 09:10 AM

jwfrz called it, season is over.

Haga's stuggled last few races and no this crash, sure hope he heals and gives it a run... so many crashed in race 2

pretty amazed how behind the 09 gsxr is in bsb, wsbk, even Mladin's had setup issues with it. Max is due to return and hopefully get the bike up there

WSS: McCoy give Triumph their first podium!

Originally Posted by NoQuarter#121

Spies is young, he has plenty of time to get a world championship.

Though I don't think he will factor once he goes to GP.

he'll replace Colin in bike and position...

Haus · 06-29-2009, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Tdawg

jwfrz called it, season is over.

Haga's stuggled last few races and no this crash, sure hope he heals and gives it a run... so many crashed in race 2

pretty amazed how behind the 09 gsxr is in bsb, wsbk, even Mladin's had setup issues with it. Max is due to return and hopefully get the bike up there

WSS: McCoy give Triumph their first podium!

he'll replace Colin in bike and position...

why not toseland? colin was on wind tunnel last night. entertaining as hell. Isn't there a Ducatiduane on this forum? email question came up in the show with that name.

they joked about having Team Texas at Tech 3. That being said I expect that both parties will see that Spies stays in wsbk. For yamaha if they put him at tech 3 and he does well.....then what do they do? ya got rossi and lorenzo filling the 2 primary spots.

Haus · 06-29-2009, 11:13 AM

btw what the hell happened to hopper in race 2?
I'm assuming the swelling came back, anyone find any news?

mnewell · 06-29-2009, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Haus

btw what the hell happened to hopper in race 2?
I'm assuming the swelling came back, anyone find any news?

That's exactly what happened. He came into the Eurosport booth and talked about it. He had so much swelling that he couldn't get in/out of his leathers. He is going to take is easy and heal up for Brno.

PeteN95 · 06-29-2009, 11:46 AM

Hopper was too beat after race 1 to do race 2, but he was impressive. Haga may be able to battle for the championship after all? He seems to only have a broken arm, which they are plating and he has a month before the next race. It won't be easy, but he is one tough MFer. It seems that collarbone last year at Miller wasn't his first broken bone after all, since he seems to have broken a vertebra a while ago? And if you remember, he raced the next day at Milller with the broken collarbone. Ouch!

watskooo · 06-29-2009, 12:37 PM

For the shape he's in, Hopkins had a good result, it'll be interesting to see if he can start finishing in front of Haslam by the end of the season. If he can do that he should end up with a decent ride next year.

As far as Tech3 goes, why would they consider keeping Toseland over Edwards? Edwards may not be the greatest rider, but Toseland and the M1/Bridgestone combination just hasn't gone anywhere yet.

xrdotimcr · 06-29-2009, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Haus

...then what do they do? ya got rossi and lorenzo filling the 2 primary spots.

Full factory support at the Tech 3 team where him and Colin will both do well.

Haus · 06-30-2009, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by xrdotimcr

Full factory support at the Tech 3 team where him and Colin will both do well.

On Wind Tunnel Dave asked Colin a question about the level of support compared to the Fiat team from Yamaha. Said he wasn't sure, "93..94..95%..maybe...I'm not sure....Rossi's always trying the latest and greatest so it varies"

Avboden · 07-02-2009, 02:13 PM

finally watched the races the other day, still can't believe biaggi did that. Has he been penalized at all? Any updates on Haga's condition?

Haus · 07-02-2009, 02:40 PM

Are you allowed to penalize the emperor?

GixxerPete · 07-02-2009, 03:15 PM

Penalized for what? He made a dumb mistake, but it wasn't intentional. Racers generally don't get penalized for dumb mistakes, even if it makes another rider crash. Did Pedrobot get penalized for torpedoing Nicky Hayden? Nope. They get penalized if they do things like overly aggressive passing (read: dangerous stuffing) etc.

Biaggi fucked up, and he's lucky it didn't end in disaster. But he doesn't need to be penalized.

jwfzr · 07-02-2009, 04:18 PM

Biaggi needs to be and is penalized for all kinds of things but this is not one of them


06-28-2009, 01:47 PM	#2
theJrod Moderator Joined: Feb 2006 From: Marysville, WA I Ride: Scooty Puff Sr: The Doom-Bringer!	Hopkins was most impressive during race 1. Riding with a recently broken hip, and finishing top-10 on a bike he still has relatively little time on. Haga I think got tired of riding conservatively, and threw it away. It will be interesting to see how/if that changes his strategy for the remainder of the season. Spies really is that good - no doubt the best rider in the series now. The AMA talent sure didn't show up. Neither Hacker or Young could make it into the top-20 for race 1, and Hacker crashed out of race 2, which Young scoring a 16th (but would surely be outside the top-20 had everyone else not crashed out). __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-28-2009, 02:24 PM	#3
750Rider Pit Crew Joined: Dec 2007 From: Keizer, OR I Ride: in volition of FMVSS	From:bikesportnews.com Xerox Ducati's Noriyuki Haga is to undergo surgery on a fractured vertebrae he suffered during a horror crash at Coppice Corner during the second World Superbike race at Donington Park. The Japanese rider was airflifted to Derby hospital where a team of surgeons will carry out surgery on his back injury and also evaluate a possible broken wrist and shoulder blade. More information when we have it __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by 750Rider; 06-28-2009 at 04:06 PM..


06-28-2009, 03:44 PM	#5
NoQuarter#121 Zone Head Joined: Sep 2007 From: 2nd star to the right and straight on 'til morning I Ride: on ice at 15F below zero	GO Haga!!! Man I hope he can continue... I really wanted him to win this year. Spies is young, he has plenty of time to get a world championship. Though I don't think he will factor once he goes to GP. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-28-2009, 04:08 PM	#6
750Rider Pit Crew Joined: Dec 2007 From: Keizer, OR I Ride: in volition of FMVSS	I hope haga recovers quickly. I want spies to win but I don't want a blow out either, which will happen if Haga doesn't get back to racing in the next few races __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-28-2009, 04:10 PM	#7
fastfoodfred Retired Joined: Mar 2006 From: spokane, wa I Ride: 2006 R6	I wish Haga the best. He is a living legend in SBK. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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06-28-2009, 12:27 PM	#1
TaurusRacing Pit Crew Joined: Aug 2007 From: Marysville, WA Blog Entries: 7 I Ride: SV650 - Race \|\| TT600 - Street	*WSBK SPOILER - Donnington Park* Well, some great racing again. WSBK always delivers entertainment. I am extremely happy for Spies but really sorry for Haga. I hope he is not injured after that get-off. I couldn't believe how many crashes in both Race 2 and WSS. It was also nice to see so many Brits do well on there home course. With the points they way they are after this weekend it is going to get really good with Spies, Haga, and Fabrizio. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-28-2009, 04:21 PM	#8
750Rider Pit Crew Joined: Dec 2007 From: Keizer, OR I Ride: in volition of FMVSS	Good news has emerged from the Derby Royal Infirmary regarding the condition of Ducati Xerox rider Noriyuki Haga. A further CT scan on the Japanese rider revealed that what were thought to be fractures of the T8 and T9 vertebrae could actually be the remains of a previous incident. This immediately brought a halt to the scheduled operation. "This is good news" declared team manager Davide Tardozzi, "but of course it needs to be confirmed tomorrow, Monday. Nori will for sure undergo an operation on the ulna bone of his right forearm, because it is a displaced fracture and there is also a suspected fracture of the scapula (shoulder blade) bone. It is clear however that if he really doesn't need to have an operation to the vertebrae he could get away with a month's rest". __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-28-2009, 04:32 PM	#9
TaurusRacing Pit Crew Joined: Aug 2007 From: Marysville, WA Blog Entries: 7 I Ride: SV650 - Race \|\| TT600 - Street	Thanks for the updates 750. Man I wish Haga the best. Just like Alister said...I wish Haga could win just one WSBK. Spies has lots of time to win this series. Boy did anyone notice that stupid ass move Biaggi did when he went down and decided to "merge" without looking and smacked into someone? What a tool. Great for him taking second in race 1 but damn dude! Be a little smarter. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-28-2009, 08:34 PM	#10
PeteN95 Superbiker Joined: Jan 2008 From: Muk, WA I Ride: Suzuki SV1000N, XR650R, CRF450R	If anyone can keep raing with those injuries, it's Haga, but a broken wrist and shoulder are a lot even without the vertebra. I wish him luck, but also Ben, who did a fantastic job today. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-29-2009, 05:50 AM	#11
fastfoodfred Retired Joined: Mar 2006 From: spokane, wa I Ride: 2006 R6	You guys are really class acts. I am proud to be part of our sport. Good for Haga. Less bad news is always good news. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-29-2009, 09:07 AM	#13
GixxerPete Forum Synopsizer Joined: Jul 2006 From: Point Lookout I Ride: 08 KLR650, 06 DRZ400SM, 04 CRF250X, 03 XR50	Bummer about Haga, but at least the prognosis is a lot better than originally thought. He may not be out for the season, but this probably ends his championship hopes. Awesome to see Biaggi and the Aprilia doing so well in race one, but it almost ended in tears after Biaggi's "merging" incident. I hope Max & the Aprilia continue to be fast, someone's gotta keep Spies honest while Haga is out. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-29-2009, 11:13 AM	#16
Haus Pit Crew Joined: Jan 2007 From: Federal Way, WA Blog Entries: 2 I Ride: CBR1000RR	btw what the hell happened to hopper in race 2? I'm assuming the swelling came back, anyone find any news? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-29-2009, 11:46 AM	#18
PeteN95 Superbiker Joined: Jan 2008 From: Muk, WA I Ride: Suzuki SV1000N, XR650R, CRF450R	Hopper was too beat after race 1 to do race 2, but he was impressive. Haga may be able to battle for the championship after all? He seems to only have a broken arm, which they are plating and he has a month before the next race. It won't be easy, but he is one tough MFer. It seems that collarbone last year at Miller wasn't his first broken bone after all, since he seems to have broken a vertebra a while ago? And if you remember, he raced the next day at Milller with the broken collarbone. Ouch! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-29-2009, 12:37 PM	#19
watskooo Pit Crew Joined: Mar 2008 From: Spokane, WA I Ride: 06 SV650 Street & 02 RC51 Track	For the shape he's in, Hopkins had a good result, it'll be interesting to see if he can start finishing in front of Haslam by the end of the season. If he can do that he should end up with a decent ride next year. As far as Tech3 goes, why would they consider keeping Toseland over Edwards? Edwards may not be the greatest rider, but Toseland and the M1/Bridgestone combination just hasn't gone anywhere yet. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-02-2009, 02:13 PM	#22
Avboden MotoGP Contender Joined: Oct 2007 From: Pullman/Spokane, Wa I Ride: 2007 BMW F800S	finally watched the races the other day, still can't believe biaggi did that. Has he been penalized at all? Any updates on Haga's condition? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-02-2009, 02:40 PM	#23
Haus Pit Crew Joined: Jan 2007 From: Federal Way, WA Blog Entries: 2 I Ride: CBR1000RR	Are you allowed to penalize the emperor? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-02-2009, 03:15 PM	#24
GixxerPete Forum Synopsizer Joined: Jul 2006 From: Point Lookout I Ride: 08 KLR650, 06 DRZ400SM, 04 CRF250X, 03 XR50	Penalized for what? He made a dumb mistake, but it wasn't intentional. Racers generally don't get penalized for dumb mistakes, even if it makes another rider crash. Did Pedrobot get penalized for torpedoing Nicky Hayden? Nope. They get penalized if they do things like overly aggressive passing (read: dangerous stuffing) etc. Biaggi fucked up, and he's lucky it didn't end in disaster. But he doesn't need to be penalized. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-02-2009, 04:18 PM	#25
jwfzr Two Wheel Art Joined: Oct 2004 From: Indy Valley North Blog Entries: 4 I Ride: cbr900rr	Biaggi needs to be and is penalized for all kinds of things but this is not one of them __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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