gixer_racer

ROFL true... would have been nice on the long straight at Summit and mdeium straight at Nelson when I was out east.. and only so I'd get a feel for where the other riders behind me were.... nothing that couldn't be accomplished by a cheap pit board. (or with my cheap ass...my buddy holding up his hands giving a relative indication of.. waaaay back.. or really close... lol)

Tdawg

ok 1000s are still there but.... rolling starts and pace cars WTF!
and a night race

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...?article=32140

PeteN95

Well, there might be a bright side? The last time the AMA F'ed things up this bad, we got Formula USA with 500 GP bikes at Pacific Raceways!

GixxerPete

They're obviously NOT thinking at all. They're simply turning it into NASCRAP, one step at a time.

How in the world can these idiots actually think that what works for NASCAR will work for motorcycle racing?

PeteN95

I just hope they don't imort the NASCAR fans, look what they do when a driver wins that they don't like: (throw beer)

NoQuarter#121

My opinion?

SBK's should be unrideable beasts with 220hp. (like they are NOW) The best riders should ride them. Like they do now. The MFG's should work their asses off to develope the lightest, baddest, fastest, bikes around. LIKE THEY DO NOW!!

Have the gay, spec 600 class if you must, but keep the Super bikes SUPER.

Rolling starts? c'mon, thats so asinine its ASSTEN!! The starts are some of the most exciting moments, races are won and lost at the start. Ask Mat or Ben! taking out the start takes out much of the racing.

The idea is to make the racing closer. The result is dumbing it down so lessor riders can run up front...

STUPID!! I already hate these guys and they haven't even started yet.

This is gonna fuck it up beyond recognition.

If Scotland or Australia didn't have such crappy gun laws I would move.

wheezl

I am a moto racing fan and I don't give a crap about AMA now. I will care even less about it after these proposed changes go through. If I happened to be in the area of an AMA round I'd be 90% likely to go, but I can't imagine ever watching it on television.

However I'd be totally for a spec Ninja 250 class or 450cc Singles as long as they had age limits on them. Of course what is so awful about 125cc and 250cc two strokes? (other than embarrassing small 4-stroke bikes)

3 hours of racing twins? I loves me some twins.. but seriously?

Time for for WERA or someone to step up.. or for the the manufactures to take their toys and go play somewhere else.

1 week to the next round of real racing. MotoGP/250cc/125cc

However I like seeing American riders do well in MotoGP so it would be nice if AMA didn't start to suck even more than it does now. AMA is needed as a talent generator for MotoGP and WSBK.

2wheelsrbest

The second (?) version of the linked article posted by Hypnotiq re-emphasizes a couple points that are not being mentioned much.

First--the manufacturers were present at this DMG plan unveiling. If the manufacturers had some major beef with the plan, you gotta think they brought it up at that point. The concerns the maufacturer reps did have were over points that differ greatly from what this thread's posters are agitated about. Second--the riders interviewed/mentioned ranged from concerned/neutral to optimistic. The article's authors may have chosen not to include it, but it doesn't sound like anyone is pulling out.

Current AMA Superbike races are no great thrill to watch. I'd rather watch a large pack have a close race with scooters than another strung out parade of laps. That may be what we get, too. Still, those directly involved don't seem to be as bothered about the changes.

GixxerPete

Which is rather odd, isn't it? All of the proposed changes sound absolutely asinine, and will likely ruin the series, rather than fix the already glaring problems with it. And yet the manufacturers and riders are all ok with it? I find that very hard to believe.

2wheelsrbest

True. Yet, Roadracingworld.com has no particular reason to bias their article one way or another (that I know of...).

Perhaps (and I mean PERHAPS) they view it like this...

Manufacturers might like the idea of closer racing, however forced, because it gives them a greater chance to shine on any given weekend. Currently, Suzuki runs away with the race, leaving others to focus on that "hot battle for 5th", which is really only 2-3 bikes anyway. Suzuki could resist as they are spanking everyone, but most know their success curve moves up and down from year to year. Restricted/forced/dumbed-down racing that promoted bigger packs means more bikes from every manufacturer racing for the podium, rather than strung out freight train with riders separated by many seconds. Any manufacturer who is NOT currently winnning may be very willing to give something else a try.

Riders might like the closer racing too. Mid-pack Racer-X may truly feel he could whoop Ben and Matt, but he can't get any closer than the starting grid. With greater parity of bikes and more bikes available to more riders (must field 4-6 article says) it would give good talent a more equal bike to show us what they've got. Otherwise, RacerX is doomed to the second page of results, seemingly forever.

I'm guessing here, like everyone else. I could imagine that manufacturers and riders do feel this way, based on the comments made in linked article. Everyone mentioned in article has WAY more invested in the outcome of US roadracing than any of us do. I suspect they are all looking for improvement with the changes.

GixxerPete

Nobody is saying the current situation is ideal, far from it. The AMA series definitely need fixing, but this idiots could screw up a wet dream. Instead of fixing a few problems, they just throw out the baby with the bath water and start over.

Come on... 600s as the premiere class? What a fucking joke. And that's their solution to the problem? I rest my case.

PeteN95

I agree, if they used the 1000 4s as the base, it could work OK. But with 600s, the support class (LiterBike) will be clicking faster laps, which will confuse the mass of fans they are after.