Body position class with Rob Burch

Wyckedan · 02-01-2012, 07:54 AM

Yesterday I had the opportunity to meet up with Rob Burch (The Motofit Group) at Kawasaki Bellevue to learn a bit about body position on his mobile lab. Rob came all the way up here because he knew I was frustrated with my right cornering ability. He worked hard to give one on one instruction, so time was tight, but he gave me some different plans of attack to try out this next season. I am extremely glad I took the time to go out there. Rob is a very informative guy, who has been around a racetrack a few times. I cannot wait to try out what he recommended, and look forward to a Motofit Group trackday. Thanks Rob!

Devil_Doc · 02-01-2012, 09:16 AM

What did he teach you? I'd love some pointers from what you learned..

CBR Dave Ingraham · 02-01-2012, 09:28 AM

Rob is a very informative rider/instuctor. He has a pasion to teach like no other. Wyckedan, I hope to see you at a motofit event. Look me up, we'll ride

anthonycbr · 02-01-2012, 09:33 AM

rob is an awesome guy i got to meet him at thunderhill last summer he had some solid advice and hes very helpfull

Wyckedan · 02-01-2012, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by Devil_Doc

What did he teach you? I'd love some pointers from what you learned..

It's not really the type of stuff you can write out. Its more show and tell

Originally Posted by CBR Dave Ingraham

Rob is a very informative rider/instuctor. He has a pasion to teach like no other. Wyckedan, I hope to see you at a motofit event. Look me up, we'll ride

Absolutely!

yard sale · 02-01-2012, 09:53 AM

i ride cross up as fuck. i don't even care! can't wait to see what you learned tho come track season.

Veloc · 02-01-2012, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by yard sale

i ride cross up as fuck. i don't even care! can't wait to see what you learned tho come track season.

You forgot this:

KNanthrup · 02-01-2012, 10:27 AM

I heard it's harder to drag knee on the right side with a Yamaha

Sentor · 02-01-2012, 10:37 AM

You can drag any knee with a yamaha?!?!?!

Wyckedan · 02-01-2012, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by yard sale

i ride cross up as fuck. i don't even care! can't wait to see what you learned tho come track season.

But it looks cool when you do whoolies

Originally Posted by KNanthrup

I heard it's harder to drag knee on the right side with a Yamaha

I guess we'll find out this year.

residentcourt1 · 02-01-2012, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by yard sale

i ride cross up as fuck. i don't even care! can't wait to see what you learned tho come track season.

Bayliss doesn't seem to care either.

tyrklnr · 02-01-2012, 02:11 PM

^^^^^^^neither do some folks-including some of the old school gp guys with the ass all the way off, body straight up in the air kinda stuff.always makes me wonder.

firecracker · 02-01-2012, 03:46 PM

There was this great thread on BARF awhile back about body positioning. A lot of guys were saying, "Oh, [this great rider] and [that great rider] rode all fucked up. It's okay!" Then, some of the fast guys from the AFM chimed in. What became of the thread was basically this:

If your body positioning sucks, you have only one to two things to do when the bike begins to to get out of shape. Zero things to do when the bike gets REALLY out of shape. With proper body positioning, not only can you carry more corner speed, get on the gas sooner, and brake later, you have about eight to ten things to do when the bike begins to get funky. You can also save, with proper body positioning, a pretty bad fall that you wouldn't have otherwise been able to save.

Drive with your head...it's worth it!!!

dwschultzy · 02-01-2012, 03:56 PM

Rob is a dedicated guy. Always fun to talk to him. Hope it tranlates into something good for you. Looking forward to hear how you transition to the r6 this year. See you out there.

Wyckedan · 02-01-2012, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by firecracker

There was this great thread on BARF awhile back about body positioning. A lot of guys were saying, "Oh, [this great rider] and [that great rider] rode all fucked up. It's okay!" Then, some of the fast guys from the AFM chimed in. What became of the thread was basically this:

If your body positioning sucks, you have only one to two things to do when the bike begins to to get out of shape. Zero things to do when the bike gets REALLY out of shape. With proper body positioning, not only can you carry more corner speed, get on the gas sooner, and brake later, you have about eight to ten things to do when the bike begins to get funky. You can also save, with proper body positioning, a pretty bad fall that you wouldn't have otherwise been able to save.

Drive with your head...it's worth it!!!

You are spot on Wade. Rob attributes walking away from his frame snapping incident to his proper position on the bike before entering turn 3 at T-hill. By pushing the bike to the left, hanging off to the right, something happens, you and the bike go separate directions.

yard sale · 02-02-2012, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by firecracker

There was this great thread on BARF awhile back about body positioning. A lot of guys were saying, "Oh, [this great rider] and [that great rider] rode all fucked up. It's okay!" Then, some of the fast guys from the AFM chimed in. What became of the thread was basically this:

If your body positioning sucks, you have only one to two things to do when the bike begins to to get out of shape. Zero things to do when the bike gets REALLY out of shape. With proper body positioning, not only can you carry more corner speed, get on the gas sooner, and brake later, you have about eight to ten things to do when the bike begins to get funky. You can also save, with proper body positioning, a pretty bad fall that you wouldn't have otherwise been able to save.

Drive with your head...it's worth it!!!

perhaps this is why i land on my face whenever i crash?

Melbs5150 · 02-02-2012, 03:08 PM

Glad you got to talk to him, and glad he went up there and put that on. I'm looking forward to doing as many MotoFit days as I can this year.

mjn · 02-02-2012, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by yard sale

perhaps this is why i land on my face whenever i crash?

The good news is you're landing on something that you can't make worse.....

dwschultzy · 02-02-2012, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by mjn

the good news is you're landing on something that you can't make worse.....

xpertss · 02-02-2012, 04:55 PM

Ron indeed a informative rider/instructor. His advise to me at the TNC body positioning session was very helpful..


02-01-2012, 07:54 AM	#1
Wyckedan Knee Dragger Joined: Feb 2010 From: Seattle, Wa I Ride: R6	Body position class with Rob Burch Yesterday I had the opportunity to meet up with Rob Burch (The Motofit Group) at Kawasaki Bellevue to learn a bit about body position on his mobile lab. Rob came all the way up here because he knew I was frustrated with my right cornering ability. He worked hard to give one on one instruction, so time was tight, but he gave me some different plans of attack to try out this next season. I am extremely glad I took the time to go out there. Rob is a very informative guy, who has been around a racetrack a few times. I cannot wait to try out what he recommended, and look forward to a Motofit Group trackday. Thanks Rob! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


02-01-2012, 09:16 AM	#2
Devil_Doc Superbiker Joined: Sep 2008 From: Nowhere, Everywhere I Ride: 04 CBR1k	What did he teach you? I'd love some pointers from what you learned.. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


02-01-2012, 09:28 AM	#3
CBR Dave Ingraham Pit Crew Joined: Feb 2010 From: Peshastin Washington I Ride: 09'cbr600 04'cbr600trackbike	Rob is a very informative rider/instuctor. He has a pasion to teach like no other. Wyckedan, I hope to see you at a motofit event. Look me up, we'll ride __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


02-01-2012, 09:33 AM	#4
anthonycbr Pit Crew Joined: Nov 2009 From: MLT WA I Ride: 2006 cbr 600 (race bike), 2006 cbr 1000(sold) 2007 cbr 600rr(totaled) 2002 cbrf4i(sold)	rob is an awesome guy i got to meet him at thunderhill last summer he had some solid advice and hes very helpfull __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


02-01-2012, 09:53 AM	#6
yard sale snowshoe kitten... prrr... Joined: Mar 2006 From: 4to5 Blog Entries: 7 I Ride: slow in the fast lane like everyone else...	i ride cross up as fuck. i don't even care! can't wait to see what you learned tho come track season. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


02-01-2012, 10:27 AM	#8
KNanthrup Chicken Strips Joined: Jul 2008 From: Issaquah, WA I Ride: '09 CBR1000RR	I heard it's harder to drag knee on the right side with a Yamaha __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


02-01-2012, 10:37 AM	#9
Sentor Streetfighter Joined: Feb 2006 From: Portland, OR I Ride: 2007 Yamaha R1 - 2007 CBR 600rr (Track Bike)	You can drag any knee with a yamaha?!?!?! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


02-01-2012, 02:11 PM	#12
tyrklnr Chicken Strips Joined: Apr 2011 From: eastsiiiiide, wa I Ride: APE	^^^^^^^neither do some folks-including some of the old school gp guys with the ass all the way off, body straight up in the air kinda stuff.always makes me wonder. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


02-01-2012, 03:46 PM	#13
firecracker Pit Crew Joined: Aug 2009 From: Seattle, WA / Willows, CA I Ride: Sometimes an S1000RR, sometimes a GSX-R 1000...	There was this great thread on BARF awhile back about body positioning. A lot of guys were saying, "Oh, [this great rider] and [that great rider] rode all fucked up. It's okay!" Then, some of the fast guys from the AFM chimed in. What became of the thread was basically this: If your body positioning sucks, you have only one to two things to do when the bike begins to to get out of shape. Zero things to do when the bike gets REALLY out of shape. With proper body positioning, not only can you carry more corner speed, get on the gas sooner, and brake later, you have about eight to ten things to do when the bike begins to get funky. You can also save, with proper body positioning, a pretty bad fall that you wouldn't have otherwise been able to save. Drive with your head...it's worth it!!! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


02-01-2012, 03:56 PM	#14
dwschultzy Race Qualifier Joined: Nov 2007 From: . Blog Entries: 2	Rob is a dedicated guy. Always fun to talk to him. Hope it tranlates into something good for you. Looking forward to hear how you transition to the r6 this year. See you out there. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


02-02-2012, 03:08 PM	#17
Melbs5150 Superbiker Joined: Dec 2008 From: Portland, OR I Ride: 08 GSXR 600, 02 GSXR 750, 07 ZX6R	Glad you got to talk to him, and glad he went up there and put that on. I'm looking forward to doing as many MotoFit days as I can this year. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


02-02-2012, 04:55 PM	#20
xpertss Peg Dragger Joined: Jun 2010 From: Portland. Blog Entries: 1 I Ride: K9 GSX-R600 ---- Gsxr750 k3	Ron indeed a informative rider/instructor. His advise to me at the TNC body positioning session was very helpful.. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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