Laid bike down, got cited - feedback? - Page 2

smokedu · 09-19-2011, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by microfunk5

My speed was anywhere between 10-20 miles an hour. After the bike was laid down, it slid for a good 10+ yards due to the case sliders that were on the bike. I was thrown off the bike and landed on my back then hit my head in kind of a whiplash effect. i was wearing basketball shorts that were about 70 polyester and a white cotton t-shirt, nike running shoes and of course my helmet. The nylon shorts have a few holes in them but they are still in tact, the cotton shirt maybe has 1 small hole and dirt marks from the street where i had hit my bike. I feel like if i was going 25+mph that the clothing i was wearing wouldn't have been able to withstand the road.

Originally Posted by barry.mccockener

Good to hear you didn't damage your basketball shorts, t-shirt, or tennis shoes in the wreck...

Originally Posted by futureman

Was waiting for this one:

I'd definitely wear some gear, especially considering the conditions.

on Lawyer

Glad you are ok, you are lucky. Just an fyi and I mean this in the most respectful way. The clothing you were wearing is not suitable for any speed period.
Sound like you nailed a couple of things they may have contributed to the incident. ex: cold tires, road conditions, to much throttle? Do you check your tire pressure every time before you ride?
As it was said not sure about the cost of the ticket but if you can afford it I would get a lawyer. If not good luck in court and please get some gear.

Derick

Jims08Z06 · 09-19-2011, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by jnicola

Wow, what a fucking cocksucker of a PIG!I'm more interested in how when we as citizens get mishandled by cock sucking pigs, how we get documentation against their career for being real pieces of shit.

Originally Posted by ciscoblue

Lawyer will probably cost more than the fine, but if you can afford to, then fight it on principle. Myself I would just pay the fine and chalk it up to all the BS that just happens.

I agree that "too fast for conditions" would have been more appropriate. Which obviously is true, tire spun bike went down. Unfortunately in this cash strapped economy it's an opportunity for revenue. The only thing I would kindly ask; Please not refer to the Police in the manner you did. To the OP, definitely get counsel, it's not so much the cost of the citation, but the added premiums you will pay for the next three years. I don't know about Oregon, but in Washington full coverage for my bike which is going on it's 4th year. Costs more per year with a clean record and over 60 than my car and truck combined...AJ

R6_Infantry · 09-19-2011, 09:57 PM

Get a lawyer as directed, but more than likely you don't have the $$$ to pay for one (no disrespect) I say that based on (just a guess) lack of proper gear, yea I said that! Should have only got a warning and a "hope you learned a lesson" I'll bet you did..... And that is how we learn from mistakes. Get some more miles under your seat, maybe find a mentor of sorts.

Ridealot · 09-20-2011, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by ciscoblue

Lawyer will probably cost more than the fine, but if you can afford to, then fight it on principle. Myself I would just pay the fine and chalk it up to all the BS that just happens.

Lawyer would be much cheaper in the long run. Exhibition of speed ticket is the gift that just keeps on giving. Would screw your insurance up big time for years to come!

SteveO · 09-20-2011, 07:43 AM

Hey Judge, my tires were cold and I was on michelins.

I couldn't help it!

My question is, what excuse will you use in order to convince the judge you were just an innocent victim?

DGA · 09-20-2011, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by ScooterRash

Hey Judge, my tires were cold and I was on michelins.

I couldn't help it!

My question is, what excuse will you use in order to convince the judge you were just an innocent victim?

The lawyer will come up with at least a few.

microfunk5 · 09-20-2011, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by barry.mccockener

Good to hear you didn't damage your basketball shorts, t-shirt, or tennis shoes in the wreck...

Originally Posted by smokedu

Glad you are ok, you are lucky. Just an fyi and I mean this in the most respectful way. The clothing you were wearing is not suitable for any speed period.
Sound like you nailed a couple of things they may have contributed to the incident. ex: cold tires, road conditions, to much throttle? Do you check your tire pressure every time before you ride?
As it was said not sure about the cost of the ticket but if you can afford it I would get a lawyer. If not good luck in court and please get some gear.

Derick

Originally Posted by R6_Infantry

Get a lawyer as directed, but more than likely you don't have the $$$ to pay for one (no disrespect) I say that based on (just a guess) lack of proper gear, yea I said that! Should have only got a warning and a "hope you learned a lesson" I'll bet you did..... And that is how we learn from mistakes. Get some more miles under your seat, maybe find a mentor of sorts.

Just to clear things up, I was on my way to the Gym which is why i was in the described attire. I didn't want to wear my jeans boots jacket and gloves to the gym. Obviously i didn't think i was going to have an accident. So given what happened, yes it would have been a good idea. Also, i was not in Salem. I live in Monmouth. As for my experience, i did take my Team Oregon BRT class before i was endorsed and i have approx 5000 miles on the rd.

The officer seemed to base everything off the "patch" of rubber that was at the stop sign. Which again, was clearly from a tire. In, Oregon are you still eligible for an oral appearance by the judge if you qualify for a trial by affidavit, (statements that are sent in) and lose that trial?

juanitotheclumsy · 09-20-2011, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by motodave

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this yet but if I was the cop I would have laughed my ass off and asked you if you learned a lesson.... and called it a day, retiring to the nearest donut shop.....

what a prick that cop is, probably didnt even get a witness report and it was just intimidation tatics....

Quotas, man. Quotas.

jnicola · 09-20-2011, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by microfunk5

In, Oregon are you still eligible for an oral appearance by the judge if you qualify for a trial by affidavit, (statements that are sent in) and lose that trial?

Yes, in oregon you can do a written statement, but it of course requires sending in the cost of the ticket with the ticket as well.

Lessons everyone should remember from selling weed as a kid:

If you give the guy the money, and he doesn't have to give you the shit, don't expect them to give you shit.

How it applies to this situation:

Send in your money, and kiss it goodbye.

midvalleysuperbiker · 09-20-2011, 10:52 AM

Major ticket, you don't want it on your record!

Lawyer up dude!

P M Sent!

Biglay5150 · 09-22-2011, 03:39 PM

Fight it for sure!

Bluuu · 09-22-2011, 04:36 PM

1) Stop talking about it on the Internet.
2) Get a lawyer and fight it.

jvlrc51 · 09-24-2011, 07:57 PM

Lets see!!!!! Today's to do list: Plan on crashing, better wear all of my gear.
Pavement is cold, and so are my tires.
Anyway, just figure out a way to get a lawyer. If you don't you will receive "due process" which means bend over.

Justice is what you pay for. The system no longer has integrate. A lawyer is the lessor of two evils.

barry.mccockener · 09-24-2011, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by jvlrc51

Lets see!!!!! Today's to do list: Plan on crashing, better wear all of my gear.
Pavement is cold, and so are my tires.
Anyway, just figure out a way to get a lawyer. If you don't you will receive "due process" which means bend over.

Justice is what you pay for. The system no longer has integrate. A lawyer is the lessor of two evils.

Excellent, glad you're on board

brucepdx · 09-25-2011, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by jnicola

wow, what a fucking cocksucker of a pig!

I'm more interested in how when we as citizens get mishandled by cock sucking pigs, how we get documentation against their career for being real pieces of shit.

saltlick · 09-25-2011, 08:48 AM

Id like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmony

Straightshot69 · 09-27-2011, 04:01 PM

If you can't afford a Lawyer, plead Not Guilty, go to court, you will probably be found guilty..
File an appeal, ( last time I did it was $90. ), your case will go to a higher court, mine went, Salem City to Marion County. If you lose that one you can appeal it again to State Court in Portland. It's up to the officer to set the appealed court date, if he doesn't ? they will let you set the date, which is what happened to me, I set it for Dec. 26th @ 8am, the officer didn't show, it was thrown out, this worked for me on a Conducting Speed Contest.
Let me add, the Salem Officer watched me do a major burnout in my 69 Camaro, drift across 3 lanes of Lancaster, grab 2nd gear and do the same drift back to my #2 lane, there was still smoke rolling out of the back seat when I pulled over.

My point being, he witnessed me doin this and didn't bother to set a date for the appeal, I think he knew when it was filed that he wasn't going to that one.
Your citation may not be worth appearing a second time, as far as the Officer is concerned
The biggest prob with this is, all fines have to be paid, prior to filing the appeal, then the appeal fees, then the chance of him showing up @ County court ??

It's a big ticket, it's either Lawyer up or be prepared to file 2 appeals if found guilty the first time around.
Good luck..

Woody97124 · 09-27-2011, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by smokedu

Glad you are ok, you are lucky. Just an fyi and I mean this in the most respectful way. The clothing you were wearing is not suitable for any speed period.
Sound like you nailed a couple of things they may have contributed to the incident. ex: cold tires, road conditions, to much throttle? Do you check your tire pressure every time before you ride?
As it was said not sure about the cost of the ticket but if you can afford it I would get a lawyer. If not good luck in court and please get some gear.

Derick

the man came out un injured so actually his clothing was fine for the situation. 10-20 mph that is. unfortunately anything faster than that probly woulda messed him up alot worse so in that case gear is needed

smokedu · 09-27-2011, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Woody97124

the man came out un injured so actually his clothing was fine for the situation. 10-20 mph that is. unfortunately anything faster than that probly woulda messed him up alot worse so in that case gear is needed

You sir amaze me with your brillance of reasoning and simple justification of stupidity! Good luck with that statement

Derick

Olequa · 10-18-2011, 09:54 AM

What is the final result of the citation that should not have been issued?


09-19-2011, 09:57 PM	#23
R6_Infantry Endorsed Joined: Jun 2008 From: Beaverton I Ride: 2003 Yamaha R6 LE	Get a lawyer as directed, but more than likely you don't have the $$$ to pay for one (no disrespect) I say that based on (just a guess) lack of proper gear, yea I said that! Should have only got a warning and a "hope you learned a lesson" I'll bet you did..... And that is how we learn from mistakes. Get some more miles under your seat, maybe find a mentor of sorts. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-20-2011, 07:43 AM	#25
SteveO Knee Dragger Joined: Jul 2006 From: Thurston County, WA. I Ride: GSXR1000	Hey Judge, my tires were cold and I was on michelins. I couldn't help it! My question is, what excuse will you use in order to convince the judge you were just an innocent victim? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-20-2011, 10:52 AM	#30
midvalleysuperbiker Shredder Joined: May 2008 From: South Salem Oregon I Ride: Aprilia Tuono, Ducati GT1000, Moto Guzzi Centauro, Bimota DB4, Yamaha FJR1300	Major ticket, you don't want it on your record! Lawyer up dude! P M Sent! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-22-2011, 03:39 PM	#31
Biglay5150 Licensed Joined: Mar 2010 From: Salem,OR I Ride: Cafe Racer	Fight it for sure! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-22-2011, 04:36 PM	#32
Bluuu Señor verde Joined: Mar 2011 From: Kirkland I Ride: behind the girls.	1) Stop talking about it on the Internet. 2) Get a lawyer and fight it. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-24-2011, 07:57 PM	#33
jvlrc51 Licensed Joined: Oct 2008 From: salem, oregon I Ride: rvt1000 sp2	Lets see!!!!! Today's to do list: Plan on crashing, better wear all of my gear. Pavement is cold, and so are my tires. Anyway, just figure out a way to get a lawyer. If you don't you will receive "due process" which means bend over. Justice is what you pay for. The system no longer has integrate. A lawyer is the lessor of two evils. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-25-2011, 08:48 AM	#36
saltlick Railer Joined: Mar 2009 From: Beaverton, Oregon I Ride: 04 Honda CBR 600RR	Id like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmony __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-27-2011, 04:01 PM	#37
Straightshot69 Training Wheels Joined: Nov 2008 From: Keizer I Ride: 08 Kawi ZX 10, 02 WR 426	If you can't afford a Lawyer, plead Not Guilty, go to court, you will probably be found guilty.. File an appeal, ( last time I did it was $90. ), your case will go to a higher court, mine went, Salem City to Marion County. If you lose that one you can appeal it again to State Court in Portland. It's up to the officer to set the appealed court date, if he doesn't ? they will let you set the date, which is what happened to me, I set it for Dec. 26th @ 8am, the officer didn't show, it was thrown out, this worked for me on a Conducting Speed Contest. Let me add, the Salem Officer watched me do a major burnout in my 69 Camaro, drift across 3 lanes of Lancaster, grab 2nd gear and do the same drift back to my #2 lane, there was still smoke rolling out of the back seat when I pulled over. My point being, he witnessed me doin this and didn't bother to set a date for the appeal, I think he knew when it was filed that he wasn't going to that one. Your citation may not be worth appearing a second time, as far as the Officer is concerned The biggest prob with this is, all fines have to be paid, prior to filing the appeal, then the appeal fees, then the chance of him showing up @ County court ?? It's a big ticket, it's either Lawyer up or be prepared to file 2 appeals if found guilty the first time around. Good luck.. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-18-2011, 09:54 AM	#40
Olequa Endorsed Joined: Feb 2009 From: Salem I Ride: Suzuki GSX 650F	What is the final result of the citation that should not have been issued? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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