Laid bike down, got cited - feedback? - Page 3

Bluehaze · 10-18-2011, 11:46 AM

What is this about Cops giving out citations when they are not there. I got in a car accident that was clearly not my fault. The other driver and i hit on the front. We moved the cars out of the way as it was still driveable so as not to impede traffic. When i explained the situation to the cop when he arrived he stated I CANT WRITE A CITATION because i was not there to see the accident.

Yet when it comes to motorcycles they give em out like candies? Something is not right here.

Buick_65 · 10-18-2011, 12:27 PM

Most of the time they won't cite in a multi vehicle incident without overwhelming evidence; i.e a rear ender. They let the insurance companies figure out who's at fault. In a single vehicle crash they almos always cite. They assume it was your fault...

james1300 · 10-18-2011, 12:28 PM

How do you 'Lay a Bike down' and 'High-side' at the same time?
Anyway, get a Lawyer.
Try the Offices of ,'Dewey, Cheatem and, Howe'.

Biglay5150 · 10-18-2011, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by james1300

How do you 'Lay a Bike down' and 'High-side' at the same time?
Anyway, get a Lawyer.
Try the Offices of ,'Dewey, Cheatem and, Howe'.

After you 'High-side' your bike it usually ends up 'Laying down' lmao I dont think I have ever seen one 'High-side' and end up not 'laying down' hahaha

microfunk5 · 11-02-2011, 10:35 PM

I pleaded Not Guilty to my citation. My trial is in a few weeks. I will post with an update.

cflytrap · 12-11-2011, 08:31 PM

I'm bumping this thread because its been like 5 weeks now since your last post. So what was the outcome?

jeff9965 · 03-21-2012, 08:55 PM

this is yet another reason why I purchased a go pro cam for my bike its on every time I ride

KRAKR · 03-21-2012, 09:25 PM

I'm curious on the outcome as well.

I'm also curious about all the "high and mighty" comments about what gear he was or wasn't wearing. Last time I checked legally the only thing he has to wear in Oregon is his helmet. If he want's to ride in shorts and a t-shirt then so be it. Where do you get off talking shit to him because you like to wear every piece of gear you can? He isn't going to hurt anyone but himself. Shit is irritating that every time someone says that they were riding in something other than a one piece kangaroo leather suit, you "holier than thou" fucks get on here and bash people for it. Pull your heads out of your asses.

SGYZFR1 · 03-21-2012, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by KRAKR

I'm curious on the outcome as well.

I'm also curious about all the "high and mighty" comments about what gear he was or wasn't wearing. Last time I checked legally the only thing he has to wear in Oregon is his helmet. If he want's to ride in shorts and a t-shirt then so be it. Where do you get off talking shit to him because you like to wear every piece of gear you can? He isn't going to hurt anyone but himself. Shit is irritating that every time someone says that they were riding in something other than a one piece kangaroo leather suit, you "holier than thou" fucks get on here and bash people for it. Pull your heads out of your asses.

Well said.

TwistedTimes · 03-22-2012, 05:30 AM

Pigs will screw you any way they think they can! Lawyer up, and sue the depatment while you're at it! I HATE PIGS!!!!

james1300 · 03-22-2012, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by Biglay5150

After you 'High-side' your bike it usually ends up 'Laying down' lmao I dont think I have ever seen one 'High-side' and end up not 'laying down' hahaha

Buick_65 · 03-22-2012, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by KRAKR

I'm curious on the outcome as well.

I'm also curious about all the "high and mighty" comments about what gear he was or wasn't wearing. Last time I checked legally the only thing he has to wear in Oregon is his helmet. If he want's to ride in shorts and a t-shirt then so be it. Where do you get off talking shit to him because you like to wear every piece of gear you can? He isn't going to hurt anyone but himself. Shit is irritating that every time someone says that they were riding in something other than a one piece kangaroo leather suit, you "holier than thou" fucks get on here and bash people for it. Pull your heads out of your asses.

Please see James' post above. Have a nice day....

drzrider375 · 03-23-2012, 09:58 AM

Pictures are key in court... i got a failure to stop 112 in a 65 and ez pass violation dropped with a lawyer

and next time wear more gear!!

Sentor · 03-23-2012, 10:03 AM

Hope the guy's not in jail. :(

TwistedTimes · 03-23-2012, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by Sentor

Hope the guy's not in jail. :(

no kidding.... sounds like the Pig was an ignorant POS, and could have pulled out all kinds of retard on the poor fella....

drzrider375 · 03-24-2012, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by ciscoblue

Lawyer will probably cost more than the fine, but if you can afford to, then fight it on principle. Myself I would just pay the fine and chalk it up to all the BS that just happens.

ALWAYS FIGHT ALMOST EVERY CITATION! unless you got off easy

Bing44 · 03-29-2012, 02:41 PM

Let's let this thread die a graceful death - the OP doesn't care so why should we.

microfunk5 · 06-04-2012, 05:15 PM

So i decided to fight the ticket myself in Municiple court. What a joke that it. Officer didn't not swear in for my case, nothing was recorded, he had no witnesses show up and his "testimony" was inconsistent with what he filed on his police report. I was found GUILTY!?!?! The judges reason was based on "circumstantial evidence." Basically even though the officer didn't witness the incident it "could have been speed racing" therefore i am guilty. I requested paper work to file an appeal.

After leaving that court before going absolutely nuts, i came home and immediately called a lawyer, Kevin Swanson, who was highly recommended to me by midvalleybiker.

Kevin and I had trial this morning. The citing police officer (1 of 2 at the scene) and the one witness showed up. They were both questioned. Before being called to the stand to give testimony, we motioned for a dismissal from the judge and it was

GRANTED!!!!!!!

The judge said that there was no evidence of Speed racing ORS 811.125 and that it would have been easier to get a careless driving to stick.

What did i learn from this much needed experience?
- Take as many pictures as you can
- Do not talk to police officers
- Municiple Court is an absolute joke
- Most importantly, listen to your fellow bikers on PNWriders and Get a lawyer!

It cost me a lot more money than it should have because i decided to research and fight my case solo.

microfunk5 · 06-04-2012, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by drzrider375

ALWAYS FIGHT ALMOST EVERY CITATION! unless you got off easy

Winning this case meant for me that
a) I don't have to pay a ridiculous insurance quote for my next bike
b) I don't have to pay higher rates on my car
c) It does not go on my record
d) I don't have to pay the $600.00 fine (though the appeal + lawyer initially costs more, but i was thinking about long term affects)
e) My license does not get suspened
f) I just love winning!

TwistedTimes · 06-04-2012, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by microfunk5

So i decided to fight the ticket myself in Municiple court. What a joke that it. Officer didn't not swear in for my case, nothing was recorded, he had no witnesses show up and his "testimony" was inconsistent with what he filed on his police report. I was found GUILTY!?!?! The judges reason was based on "circumstantial evidence." Basically even though the officer didn't witness the incident it "could have been speed racing" therefore i am guilty. I requested paper work to file an appeal.

After leaving that court before going absolutely nuts, i came home and immediately called a lawyer, Kevin Swanson, who was highly recommended to me by midvalleybiker.

Kevin and I had trial this morning. The citing police officer (1 of 2 at the scene) and the one witness showed up. They were both questioned. Before being called to the stand to give testimony, we motioned for a dismissal from the judge and it was

GRANTED!!!!!!!

The judge said that there was no evidence of Speed racing ORS 811.125 and that it would have been easier to get a careless driving to stick.

What did i learn from this much needed experience?
- Take as many pictures as you can
- Do not talk to police officers
- Municiple Court is an absolute joke
- Most importantly, listen to your fellow bikers on PNWriders and Get a lawyer!

It cost me a lot more money than it should have because i decided to research and fight my case solo.

Epic! glad to hear you showed the Pig what a JOKE HE IS! be warned now though, that if you ever get stopped by that "officer" again, demand his supervisor be called to the seen, or else he'll try and ream you any way he can! (experience being spoken hear), yes it'll cost you allot more time at the side of the road.... but you'll be saved from having to go back to court for more BS. Just some experience being put out their man, congratulations again!


10-18-2011, 11:46 AM	#41
Bluehaze Licensed Joined: Sep 2008 From: Everett, WA I Ride: Triumph Daytona 675	What is this about Cops giving out citations when they are not there. I got in a car accident that was clearly not my fault. The other driver and i hit on the front. We moved the cars out of the way as it was still driveable so as not to impede traffic. When i explained the situation to the cop when he arrived he stated I CANT WRITE A CITATION because i was not there to see the accident. Yet when it comes to motorcycles they give em out like candies? Something is not right here. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-18-2011, 12:27 PM	#42
Buick_65 Peg Dragger Joined: Mar 2008 From: Poulsbo, WA I Ride: CBR 954, WR250X, SV650	Most of the time they won't cite in a multi vehicle incident without overwhelming evidence; i.e a rear ender. They let the insurance companies figure out who's at fault. In a single vehicle crash they almos always cite. They assume it was your fault... __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


10-18-2011, 12:28 PM	#43
james1300 Track School Dazed Joined: Oct 2005 From: CENTRAL I Ride: When I can	How do you 'Lay a Bike down' and 'High-side' at the same time? Anyway, get a Lawyer. Try the Offices of ,'Dewey, Cheatem and, Howe'. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


11-02-2011, 10:35 PM	#45
microfunk5 Newbie Joined: Apr 2011 From: Monmouth, OR I Ride: GSX-R 600 K7	I pleaded Not Guilty to my citation. My trial is in a few weeks. I will post with an update. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


12-11-2011, 08:31 PM	#46
cflytrap Permit Joined: Nov 2011 From: Salem, Oregon I Ride: 1995 Kawasaki Ninja ex250	I'm bumping this thread because its been like 5 weeks now since your last post. So what was the outcome? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


03-21-2012, 08:55 PM	#47
jeff9965 Permit Joined: Mar 2012 From: Keizer, OR I Ride: a broken r6	this is yet another reason why I purchased a go pro cam for my bike its on every time I ride __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


03-21-2012, 09:25 PM	#48
KRAKR Licensed Joined: Mar 2009 From: Lebanon, Oregon I Ride: '09 R1, '00 YZ426f, '05 Banshee, '02 Banshee	I'm curious on the outcome as well. I'm also curious about all the "high and mighty" comments about what gear he was or wasn't wearing. Last time I checked legally the only thing he has to wear in Oregon is his helmet. If he want's to ride in shorts and a t-shirt then so be it. Where do you get off talking shit to him because you like to wear every piece of gear you can? He isn't going to hurt anyone but himself. Shit is irritating that every time someone says that they were riding in something other than a one piece kangaroo leather suit, you "holier than thou" fucks get on here and bash people for it. Pull your heads out of your asses. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


03-22-2012, 05:30 AM	#50
TwistedTimes HondaKilla Joined: Jan 2008 From: Hillsburrito, OR I Ride: Like a duc wrangler	Pigs will screw you any way they think they can! Lawyer up, and sue the depatment while you're at it! I HATE PIGS!!!! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


03-23-2012, 09:58 AM	#53
drzrider375 Permit Joined: Dec 2011 From: astoria OR I Ride: DRZ400sm, 450smr, kx250f	Pictures are key in court... i got a failure to stop 112 in a 65 and ez pass violation dropped with a lawyer and next time wear more gear!! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


03-23-2012, 10:03 AM	#54
Sentor Novice Racer Joined: Feb 2006 From: Beaverton, OR I Ride: 2008 R6 Race Bike - #52 - And whatever's in the shop!	Hope the guy's not in jail. :( __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


03-29-2012, 02:41 PM	#57
Bing44 Peg Dragger Joined: Sep 2007 From: Independence, Oregon I Ride: 07 FZ1, '11 DR-Z 400S	Let's let this thread die a graceful death - the OP doesn't care so why should we. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-04-2012, 05:15 PM	#58
microfunk5 Newbie Joined: Apr 2011 From: Monmouth, OR I Ride: GSX-R 600 K7	The outcome! So i decided to fight the ticket myself in Municiple court. What a joke that it. Officer didn't not swear in for my case, nothing was recorded, he had no witnesses show up and his "testimony" was inconsistent with what he filed on his police report. I was found GUILTY!?!?! The judges reason was based on "circumstantial evidence." Basically even though the officer didn't witness the incident it "could have been speed racing" therefore i am guilty. I requested paper work to file an appeal. After leaving that court before going absolutely nuts, i came home and immediately called a lawyer, Kevin Swanson, who was highly recommended to me by midvalleybiker. Kevin and I had trial this morning. The citing police officer (1 of 2 at the scene) and the one witness showed up. They were both questioned. Before being called to the stand to give testimony, we motioned for a dismissal from the judge and it was GRANTED!!!!!!! The judge said that there was no evidence of Speed racing ORS 811.125 and that it would have been easier to get a careless driving to stick. What did i learn from this much needed experience? - Take as many pictures as you can - Do not talk to police officers - Municiple Court is an absolute joke - Most importantly, listen to your fellow bikers on PNWriders and Get a lawyer! It cost me a lot more money than it should have because i decided to research and fight my case solo. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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