Don't bite on this internet scam.

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Talk' started by D2O, Jul 22, 2012.


  1. D2O

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    My recent Craigslist For Sale listing for a 2007 VStrom 650 (similar to the listing I posted last week in the PNW Riders Classifieds) attracted a scam artist. It's kind of interesting and a cautionary tale for anyone wanting to sell a motorcycle via the internet. Here's the story.

    I replied to an email sent through Craigslist, answering a few questions asked by a prospective buyer, and received a reply offering to buy the bike using Paypal. The buyer would credit my Paypal account and I would provide an address to have the bike picked by a shipper. This is a scam that has been reported by several internet users. A Google search turns up several variations of it.

    For anyone interested, here's a copy of the scam email text.

    "Thanks for the mail, I'm interested in buying this item for my son and
    I'm okay with the price, I'm a Subsea Engineer and currently offshore
    I want this as a surprise gift for my son so I won't let him to be
    aware until delivery. I feel more comfortable to handle the payment
    through PayPal due to their various security measures and ensuring
    safety and secured transaction between both buyers and seller and
    kindly reply me with your paypal email address for me to processed
    with the payment, incase you do not have an account with paypal you
    can easily set-up an account with them today as it's secured and
    reliable in terms of transaction arrangement. Visit their website on
    www.paypal.com I will be responsible for the paypal charges. My movers
    would come around for the pick up as soon as possible, after the
    payment has been sent to you and your full address and phone number
    will be needed for the freight arrangement I would love to speak with
    you through the phone but due to the nature of my work as a Subsea
    Engineer i work mainly at the Sea of Okhotsk and our phone is down on
    the rig right now due to bad weather, We can still communicate through
    the email exchange for now.

    I will be looking forward to read from you in real soon with the
    paypal email address and your full address including phone number for
    the freight arrangement."

    Note the weird story, odd phrasing, non-local buyer and offer to use Paypal this way should raise red flag warnings for a prospective seller.
     
    #1 D2O, Jul 22, 2012
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2012
  2. Cool story, Bro.
     
  3. So did the paypal payment go through?
     
  4. Seems legit.

    :ninja:
     
  5. Hope his friends don't dead you.
     
  6. Had the same thing when trying to sell my car. Local buyers only. Cash in my hand or I'll meet you at your bank. Nothing else. I noticed too that scammers always say "I'd like to buy this item" not your Vstrom or your Camry. Not specific = delete.
     
  7. Subject: PART-TIME JOB OPPORTUNITY

    Dear Sir,Madam,

    We are small new firm engaged in export of goods to overseas outside my country.We have won various small exports contract at one time or the other, recently we were (engaged) contracted to supply financial programs for market analyzing, management project software in USA which was successfully done.

    Unfortunately we have faced some difficulties while receiving payment for our software in our country as need 10-30 days to get a payment from your country. We do not have so much time to accept wire transfers and can't accept cashiers checks and money orders as well. So we need your help to accept this payments in your country faster. If you are looking to make additional profit we will accept you as our representative in your country. You will keep 10% of each deal we conduct.

    Your part is very important to accept funds and forward it to us. It is not a full time work but a very convenient and fast additional income. We therefore solicit your assistance to help remit this money , I would want you to submit to us via mail to [Address removed] the following information which includes
    1 Your Full Name
    2 Your Contact Address
    3 Telephone number/Fax
    4.Yahoo or MSN ID.
    Your country of living

    Please respond ASAP and you will get additional details on how you can become our representative. Joining us and starting business today will cost you nothing, just some extra income for you.

    Thanks for your vivid co-operation.

    Manager,
    SMITH BAMI
    Director of ENFOSOFT Marketing Dept.
     
  8. koorbloh

    koorbloh Je Fa Fa

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    wow.

    we haven't had a "beware of the innernets" thread in what...like 5 minutes?
     
  9. I like this one....

    Subj: VIRUS ALERT Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE

    Warning: There's a new virus on the loose that's worse than anything I've seen before! It gets in through the power line, riding on the powerline 60 Hz subcarrier. It works by changing the serial port pinouts, and by reversing the direction one's disks spin. Over 300,000 systems have been hit by it here in Murphy, West Dakota, alone! And that's just in the last 12 minutes.

    It attacks DOS, Unix, TOPS-20, Apple-II, VMS, MVS, Multics, Mac, RSX-11, ITS, TRS-80, and VHS systems.

    To prevent the spread of the worm:

    1) Don't use the powerline.
    2) Don't use batteries either, since there are rumours that this virus has invaded most major battery plants, and is infecting the positive poles of the batteries. (You might try hooking up just the negative pole.)

    3) Don't upload or delete or download files.

    4) Don't store files on floppy disks or hard disks.

    5) Don't read messages. No, not even this one!

    6) Don't use serial ports, toasters, modems, or phone lines.

    7) Don't use keyboards, screens, electric toothbrushes, or printers.

    8) Don't use switches, CPUs, memories, microprocessors, or mainframes.

    9) Don't use electric lights, electric or gas heat, or airconditioning, running water, vibrators, writing, fire, clothing, or the wheel.

    I'm sure if we are all careful to follow these 9 easy steps, this virus can be eradicated, and the precious electronic fluids of our computers can be kept pure.
     
  10. I get all kinds of scammers.Checks,payments,lotteries,millions of dollars etc.That paypal site looks different than what I was on today to make a payment on.
     
  11. No worries - I'll just use my Amiga. Or maybe the ATARI 800.

    That'll show them! :thefinge:
     
  12. Rock Dodger

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    Scams are a dime a dozen. Unless they are on sale, then like a dime a truck load. =)

    I guess some people just can't succeed at making an honest dollar.
     
  13. RedKat600

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    And you wonder why Craigslist has Don't use Paypal warnings plastered all over the website....that's not a big enough clue for you?
     
  14. Tell it again.
     
  15. I like the "Our phone is down due to storms" line, but look, the internet works just fine.

    I guess this "engineer" has never heard of Skype.
     
  16. RobG

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    Any time I get a reply asking about my "item" I know it's a scam.

    Rob
     
  17. Be careful, you might get an infraction for comments like that.
     
  18. Wrench

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  19. What baffles me anymore isn't the scams but the fact that some people must fall victim to it. As Rob said, referring to what you're selling as the "item" is a big red flag, along with the broken english.

    I just can't believe people are this stupid, but they must be otherwise these scams wouldn't be going on.

    I tend to weed out the bull with my craigslist ads by not using an email. I only put my phone number in the ad. Too many scams and people that just want to be your pen pal and email back and forth. With just a phone number the guy/gal that is serious about purchasing what you're selling will pick up the phone and call you.
     
  20. It appears someone going by the name 'Charles McEntire' is pulling the same scam here. See the message below...

    Hello,
    Thanks for the mail, I'm interested in buying this item for my son and I'm okay with the price, I'm a Subsea Engineer and currently offshore I want this as a surprise gift for my son so I won't let him to be aware until delivery. I feel more comfortable to handle the payment through PayPal due to their various security measures and ensuring safety and secured transaction between both buyers and seller and kindly reply me with your paypal email address for me to processed with the payment, incase you do not have an account with paypal you can easily set-up an account with them today as it's secured and reliable in terms of transaction arrangement. Visit their website on www.paypal.com I will be responsible for the paypal charges. My movers would come around for the pick up as soon as possible, after the payment has been sent to you and your full address and phone number will be needed for the freight arrangement I would love to speak with you through the phone but due to the nature of my work as a Subsea Engineer i work mainly at the Sea of Okhotsk and our phone is down on the rig right now due to bad weather, We can still communicate through the email exchange for now.

    I will be looking forward to read from you in real soon with the paypal email address and your full address including phone number for the freight arrangement.

    Charles.

    It's almost commical to read...
     

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