I don't care about power, but I do want smoothness.....

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  1. blakegaston

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    I know my experience is the main culprit, and seattime will ultimately be the biggest investment, but perhaps there are a few modifications that can help me along my way.

    I've posted threads before inquiring about throttle smoothness, and things of that nature. The main problem I have right now is going through 0% throttle to 1%. The initial crack, and getting back on throttle after letting off is very difficult for me, because of the jerk due to drivetrain slack, or whatever.

    Any mods to help alleviate this? Would it be a waste of money, or would a ECU reflash, a tune, or PCV help at all? What about sprockets.. maybe going the opposite direction and sacrificing acceleration for a bit more smoothness? I honestly don't know. I'm still learning mechanically, and in practice. I don't really know many people who ride. I usually learn through trial and error, but unfortunately, with my bike, error could mean death, so online forums are all I got.

    Again, I don't care about power. My 600 is plenty fast for me, albeit I ride very conservatively. I just want dat smooooooth.



    Thanks for all the information / suggestions.
     
  2. Furious Coder

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    Shaft drive?
     
  3. Deven

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    practice
     
  4. Adjust your throttle cables.
    I bet that's it.
     
  5. blakegaston

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    I do, but I get scared. Especially manipulating throttle in a corner. I am trying to pick up a Ninja 250. I think it will be a very good bike for me... I rode my friends and the throttle was very forgiving, and I could focus on BP in corners. I cornered faster on the ninjette and got lower than I ever have on my gix. That being said, a large part of that is because on my gix, I get scared and don't want to ride outside of my comfort level. I also wouldn't like the ninja for city riding, as I do like spirited pulls now and then.
     
  6. blakegaston

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    I tried this, adjusting the TPS, and adding a TRE. Unfortunately nothing helped. I am going to try to have the bike serviced at KFG this week, and I'll ask them their thoughts on how the throttle is adjusted.
     
  7. TamiJean

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    practice is really the main key in my opinion. But Bazzaz does make add on traction control systems coupled with their fuel management and quickshift. Spendy but could be what you are looking for.
     
  8. Khustla

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    Holy shit, rocking whooliez in corners on a twofiddy???


    Change your sprockets, lose the torque and tune your air/fuel.
     
  9. Gotama

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    go talk to nels
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  12. UhOh

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    Inspect your chain slack. Maybe it's loose.
    GSXR's, at least my 1000, spec chain slack at 0.8 - 1.2 inches.

    Adjust yours, or have a shop do it, close to the minimum;
    be aware that the chain tightens up fast at the end vs. fractional turn.
     
  13. james1300

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    Have you adjusted your throttle cables? Got any slack out of them? Lubed them and the clutch cable (if you have one) as well?
     
  14. stickxb

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    I'm surprised the TRE didn't work. I had the same problem with my 2007, 750.
    Installed the TRE and smooth as butter after that.
     
  15. Pvster

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    Yup, practice. If you're having to deal with 0-1% throttle openings in the corners, you're doing it wrong I hate to say. You do NOT want to enter a corner off throttle. At least maintain steady throttle to hold a consistent speed, or apply light throttle. Also try bumping up another gear before entering a corner. It sounds like you need to work on better throttle management more than body positioning right now.
     
  16. theJrod

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    Another +1
    The late model gixxer 6s are known for having a bit of an abrupt on-off throttle transition. A PC and a tune can help significantly. Nels can even do a tune without the power commander.
     
  17. A41Billy

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    You could get a PC or a G2 throttle tube. The rest is up to you practicing. Use that throttle like a surgeon.
     
  18. Wyckedan

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    Aye, talk to Nels. He's a wealth of knowledge on what mods do on most every bike. There might be a simple ecu adjustment. But if you're having trouble transitioning from off to the smallest input, you need more seat time. 600's are so forgiving so far down in the power band, there's really not much to worry about. You're most likely not going to highside a 600 going from 0% throttle to 1%.
     
  19. YOUNG HEART 750

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    Have you tried your other power modes? If not, give that a try in addition to proper chain and throttle adjustment. The C mode should be mellow enough to take out some of the on/off throttle issues. Once you have mastered that try moving up to the B and A mode.
     
  20. blakegaston

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    The jerky feeling happens regardless of mode. Could nels tune me different tunes that I could select via the mode switch?
     
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