Suzuki SV 650 or equivalent

Discussion in 'Motorcycles' started by Chelle, May 31, 2012.

  1. Brand new female rider who is super enthused to start riding on a regular basis. The problem of course no bike. :(. I took the Team Oregon Basic Rider course and sadly missed my riding portion by 2 points. I don't fathom any issue passing once I get wrist time on the throttle. I've set aside money to spend hoping to keep it between 1K and 2500. Need extra for more safety gear (always the case). I realize without my endorsement test drives will be out of the question, luckily I have an experienced rider (10+ year GSX-R 1000...and you wonder why i need my own bike.. :shock:) for assistance (boyfriend).

    I do not want a cruiser right now. Maybe down the line but right now I just don't enjoy the extra weight.

    Anyways. Glad to be joining the community of riders and am looking forward to a future of enjoying the road.
  2. Grantizzle

    Grantizzle Moderator
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    Mill Creek, Wa
    ninja250 sounds like it's your best bet.
  3. Thanks Grantizzle sadly I had a very unpleasant experience as a passenger on a Ninja so currently not really thinking those sound appealing...but as I've been told you never know until you sit down and get to know the bike. I also don't want to outgrow the bike too rapidly. But I'm still learning and always open to new suggestions etc.
  4. failed the test and already worrying about outgrowing a bike?

    LULZ crackup:
  5. Depending on your situation, are you able to go ride a dirtbike? Great way to learn a bit about bikes, and not nearly as unpleasant to dump. Grass is friendlier than concrete.

    Oh, good luck on getting some wrist time on a throttle. Bet your boy friend can help you with that.. :ninja:
  6. Apex

    Lacey, WA
    1) Two people on a 300 lb bike would be unpleasant to anybody.

    2) You won't.
    #6 Apex, Jun 1, 2012
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2012
  7. dizzle

    dizzle WHO is DANE?

    What's so unpleasant about a ninja? Just because you had 1 bad experience doesn't mean you should rule it out. I dated a psychotic brunette one but that doesn't mean I won't date any other brunettes.

    I vote ninja 250 then r1.
  8. speaking as someone who's had an sv650, and a hayabusa, and currently a speed triple, you're crazy. Ninja 250's are not only light, easy & forgiving, but they're a blast to ride and reward you as your skills improve with TONS O' FUN.

    Frankly I'd love to have one in my garage for knocking around on and general hooning it up.

    If you're having throttle issues that prevented you from passing on the BRC bikes, an SV650 isn't for you. They're not that crazy compared to a liter or 600, but they've got tons of low & midrange power and will kick your ass if you're unprepared for that. I loved mine and it was tons of fun, but it was the 4th bike I rode (started on old UJM's).

    Get something light, small & cheap, and upgrade later. You cannot outgrow a ninja 250 in a single year, unless you spend that year on the track and simply decide you want more power. ;)
  9. Liez.

  10. Morwan

    Uh. What were the test bikes that you had this throttle problem with?
  11. Nobody likes being told what bike then need instead of want. If you couldn't get past the TO class though please don't go jump on a 650.

    The best part about baby Ninjas is that you can ride them for a year then sell it for what you paid for it.
  12. galenernest

    galenernest I bathe with candles, flowers, jazz music, and rub

    I Ride:
    Jialing 150 enduro
    The girl wants an SV650! That's not a shabby beginner bike. I'd say go for it!
  13. I would highly recommend the ninja 250 with pirelli's or the SV. Owned both. But they are 2 significantly different rides. I kept redlining the 250 on the backroads, but didn't want to upgrade to a gixxer like everyone else, so I went for the bike that would allow more throttle in the turns yet the smooth control I enjoyed with the 250 with more headroom.
  14. I didn't state that I did not pass the BRC because of throttle issues. I was stating that practice time is what I want. I took the exam after riding 4 hours in the rain without proper rain gear. Which was my own fault for not dressing appropriately. I had an issue with the slow offset weave on a 250 Suzuki cruiser. Riding cold wet and shivering is not ideal. As stated I screwed up and I know it. I got a 96 out of 100 for the written. Riding is a combination of mind and body it takes both. Most folks I have spoken to have been very supportive and glad to help another lady rider join the ranks. Multiple have share stories of not passing their first exam whether DMV or BRC. To those that didn't have feel the need to add constructive comments seem trolling for a response is typical forum fodder.
  15. Hi, ignore all these wannabe moto instructors. I commend you on taking a rider course. You now probably have more knowledge than most riders on the road. Now comes developing experience that keeps you safe.

    There's nothing wrong with you going with an SV650 as a beginner bike. You can hurt/kill yourself just as easily with a Ninja250 if you don't ride with the right training, attitude and awareness.

    Training: Continue with it. Read everything on the moto forums about safety and riding.
    Attitude: "Ride like no cars drivers are aware of you". Always say to yourself before riding, "i could die today if i don't pay attention".
    Awareness: See attitude. But just be 100% situationally aware.

    Now as to your bike options, here is what i recommend you consider:

    WEIGHT of the bike is an issue when you are maneuvering it by manually or while riding, so beware of that.

    Another is RIDE HEIGHT. I am 5'7" and found the bike seat too high for me to put my foot down flat. So i lowered my rear and front suspension by about .25inches with good results. (you won't want to do that without checking all the specs info as it'll change the front rake and handling of any bike you want to do that to. But anything under 1.0-0.5 inches will have minor impact)

    So find an SV650 to sit on and maybe manueuver to get an idea how it handles for you, before riding it.

    Another thing to be aware of is that STOCK SV650s have terrible FRONT suspension which are way soft and "bouncy". This will affect your cornering stability and WILL scare you as a beginner if you enter a corner faster than you want (which you'll do many times in your progression). Most experienced riders will install stiffer springs or tune-up their front-end suspension to deal with this problem.

    Check out for all the info about SVs.

    I ride a Honda CBR600F4i as my around town/track bike and love it incredibly. It was my beginner bike. I spent good money to get track instructions. You should too. Learning on the track is the SAFEST riding you can possibly do.... No oncoming traffic or road debris/animals to add to your unpredictables. Track experience has made me a better and safer rider all around.

    I also have a 2007 SV650S with sonic springs in front tuned for a 150lb rider, rear GSXR adjustable shock, custom chin spoiler, passenger seat cover, delkevic exhaust, michelin performance tires, and other goodies.

    I love everything about the bike, but find it's a still a little "long" for me. Meaning it's not a fun ride when i am cruising for long periods. I end up leaning too much on my wrists due to the length. This is an important consideration in your riding as you want NO weight on your wrists as any bumps in the road against a stiff/heavy handgrip on the handlebar will create a cascade of BAD human reactions that could lead to panic and wrecking. So making sure the comfort in the riding position is INCREDIBLY important.

    Ideally, you want to sit on the bike on stands so you can assume a riding position. AND PREFERABLY, you want an experienced rider there to look at your positioning and ask you good questions about your sensations on the bike. IT'LL BE A VALUABLE way to avoid buying a beginner bike that you find out in the next several months is "not the right fit"

    I am considering selling my SV650s, but am ambivalent as i KNOW what great track bikes they can be when dialed in for the rider. I still have a number of things i can do to make the bike fit me. But i could also sell it to the right person.

    Take a look at the bike. If you're interested, i can offer to show it to you and let you sit and ride it.

    #16 liquidstoke, Jun 1, 2012
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2012
  16. Great article Devil_Doc lots of superb information. I appreciate it!
  17. Liquid, excellent post & advice. If you and the OP don't wind up selling/buying the SV, please PM me as I might be in the market for one. Again, great words & thanks for helping another rider find the right tools & confidence.
  18. Fine then, get an EX250.
  19. you either need to suck it up and buy a 250 cruiser or buy a ninja250 or cbr250r, which will still be too high/heavy. your best bet may be a kawasaki or honda dual sport 230/250.

    you just need to get miles under you and buy a bike you want after you get some experience. all kinds of older starter bikes with low seat height/weight on the market. get a starter and ride it every chance you get.
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