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Adrynalinjunkie · 06-24-2009, 12:11 AM

I have been thinking of stepping up to slicks for track days.

where should I order them? I can mount them myself, I would rather pay a extra $50 for a 09' made set than some older date codes. That is the problem with buying tires online.

BUT it is too much of a hassle to get new tires mounted before a track day first thing in the morning.

the chemist · 06-24-2009, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by Adrynalinjunkie

I have been thinking of stepping up to slicks for track days.

where should I order them? I can mount them myself, I would rather pay a extra $50 for a 09' made set than some older date codes. That is the problem with buying tires online.

BUT it is too much of a hassle to get new tires mounted before a track day first thing in the morning.

Why do you want to run slicks? Honest question.
DOT's are just as good, and cheaper.

D_Rail · 06-24-2009, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by Adrynalinjunkie

I have been thinking of stepping up to slicks for track days.

where should I order them? I can mount them myself, I would rather pay a extra $50 for a 09' made set than some older date codes. That is the problem with buying tires online.

BUT it is too much of a hassle to get new tires mounted before a track day first thing in the morning.

Call Barry Wressel 206-372-6898. He is the Dunlop Trackside Tire Distributor for the NW. He'll have the most recently made tires possible, and also at a better price than you could find online with mounting and balancing.

theJrod · 06-24-2009, 08:25 AM

You can't buy Dunlop slicks online. Not the good ones anyway. You could call up Sport Tire Services, but really Barry @ KFG will give you the best deal.

And it's really no hassle at all to just show up at the track to buy them and get them mounted. That's what everyone else does.

Adrynalinjunkie · 06-25-2009, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by the chemist

Why do you want to run slicks? Honest question.
DOT's are just as good, and cheaper.

So why are they not permitted in some race classes?

odin544 · 06-25-2009, 11:44 PM

because they arent DOT approved

the chemist · 06-26-2009, 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by Adrynalinjunkie

So why are they not permitted in some race classes?

read the rule book, it'll tell you.

seriously, there's a reason guys like brianm run DOTs in superbike, even though they can do solid 29's on a bone stock 05 gixxer 600.

Mic · 06-26-2009, 08:11 AM

Just a bit of perspective...

Although Slicks give more contact patch, the Track Record was broken by Ross Delong in Open Supersport on DOT's this last Race Weekend. Granted, MikeM took away that record again on Sunday in Formula Ultra, but that gives yah an idea of how much yah have to work with on DOT's.

pscook · 06-26-2009, 11:27 AM

Talk to tire vendors at the track to get the best deal. They will suggest what tires to use, what pressures to run, and what temps to use on your adjustable tire warmers. You do have warmers, right? Also, once you buy tires from a local vendor, you have a tire resource for ever. They will flip your tires, sell you take-offs, and mount your rains for free (as long as you keep going to the same vendor, of course). They will also give you advise when you need it and grief when you don't. Hell, Barry let me borrow his vacuum bleeder and I run Pirelli's. How cool is that?

Modern DOT's rock, but try different tires and compounds to find what you like.

GixxerTek · 06-26-2009, 11:37 AM

AND.....are you running times that will keep the tires @ temp?

kevlar791 · 06-26-2009, 11:54 AM

I am a first year novice in omrra and I run slicks...I would love to run dot because they are cheaper and you can always sell them as take offs however I have only ran slicks and I know how they react...my tire guy doesnt want me to change anything since I am so new at this...so with that if you have never ran slicks then I would run dot's

the chemist · 06-26-2009, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Mic

Granted, MikeM took away that record again on Sunday in Formula Ultra, but that gives yah an idea of how much yah have to work with on DOT's.

Mike had a DOT front on, too.

NoQuarter#121 · 06-26-2009, 01:42 PM

Modern race slicks do not differ much from modern race DOT's.

(When I'm speaking of DOT's I mean DOT RACE tires.)

The DOT's are nominally "street legal" but many of them are of the same compound, construction and profile as the Slicks.
They make terrible street tires, they do not last, do not come up to temperature and in general do not work as street tires.
(Don't ask me how I know...)

I have run Dunlops and Pirellis Slick rears with DOT fronts (of course both tires were the same brand) without any handling issues.

The slicks do not have a larger contact patch compared to the same size DOT, unless you count the very minimal difference for the 'rain' grooves on DOT's required to pass DOT standards.

DOT's do not have grooves on the edge of the tire. They are slicks once you tip in...

The slicks last a little bit longer, but they costs a little bit more...

It's nearly a push.

Typically I will run DOT's cuz they are legal for all classes, unless the specific size/compound I want is only available in the slick.

The difference in traction of the DOT and slick RACE tire is absolutely negligable.


06-24-2009, 08:25 AM	#4
theJrod Moderator Joined: Feb 2006 From: Marysville, WA I Ride: Scooty Puff Sr: The Doom-Bringer!	You can't buy Dunlop slicks online. Not the good ones anyway. You could call up Sport Tire Services, but really Barry @ KFG will give you the best deal. And it's really no hassle at all to just show up at the track to buy them and get them mounted. That's what everyone else does. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-25-2009, 11:44 PM	#6
odin544 Superbiker Joined: Apr 2007 From: Kennewick, Washington I Ride: '08 Ducati 848 street , '03 R6 track bike	because they arent DOT approved __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-26-2009, 08:11 AM	#8
Mic Moderator Joined: May 2007 From: Bellevue, Wa. Blog Entries: 15 I Ride: with both cheeks hanging off each side.	Just a bit of perspective... Although Slicks give more contact patch, the Track Record was broken by Ross Delong in Open Supersport on DOT's this last Race Weekend. Granted, MikeM took away that record again on Sunday in Formula Ultra, but that gives yah an idea of how much yah have to work with on DOT's. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-26-2009, 11:27 AM	#9
pscook Pit Crew Joined: Jan 2008 From: Shoreline I Ride: GSXR600, CBR600, YZ444, RZ350	Talk to tire vendors at the track to get the best deal. They will suggest what tires to use, what pressures to run, and what temps to use on your adjustable tire warmers. You do have warmers, right? Also, once you buy tires from a local vendor, you have a tire resource for ever. They will flip your tires, sell you take-offs, and mount your rains for free (as long as you keep going to the same vendor, of course). They will also give you advise when you need it and grief when you don't. Hell, Barry let me borrow his vacuum bleeder and I run Pirelli's. How cool is that? Modern DOT's rock, but try different tires and compounds to find what you like. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-26-2009, 11:37 AM	#10
GixxerTek GixxerTek Joined: Apr 2006 From: Tacoma I Ride: 2 Race Types and 1 Tard @ NESBA Events	AND.....are you running times that will keep the tires @ temp? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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06-24-2009, 12:11 AM	#1
Adrynalinjunkie Zone Head Joined: Dec 2006 From: Richland I Ride: Anything that "Returns the Favor"	Newest date code Dunlop Slicks ? I have been thinking of stepping up to slicks for track days. where should I order them? I can mount them myself, I would rather pay a extra $50 for a 09' made set than some older date codes. That is the problem with buying tires online. BUT it is too much of a hassle to get new tires mounted before a track day first thing in the morning. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-26-2009, 11:54 AM	#11
kevlar791 WMRRA Qualifier Joined: Nov 2008 From: medford,or I Ride: gixxer 750	I am a first year novice in omrra and I run slicks...I would love to run dot because they are cheaper and you can always sell them as take offs however I have only ran slicks and I know how they react...my tire guy doesnt want me to change anything since I am so new at this...so with that if you have never ran slicks then I would run dot's __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-26-2009, 01:42 PM	#13
NoQuarter#121 Zone Head Joined: Sep 2007 From: 2nd star to the right and straight on 'til morning I Ride: on ice at 15F below zero	Modern race slicks do not differ much from modern race DOT's. (When I'm speaking of DOT's I mean DOT RACE tires.) The DOT's are nominally "street legal" but many of them are of the same compound, construction and profile as the Slicks. They make terrible street tires, they do not last, do not come up to temperature and in general do not work as street tires. (Don't ask me how I know...) I have run Dunlops and Pirellis Slick rears with DOT fronts (of course both tires were the same brand) without any handling issues. The slicks do not have a larger contact patch compared to the same size DOT, unless you count the very minimal difference for the 'rain' grooves on DOT's required to pass DOT standards. DOT's do not have grooves on the edge of the tire. They are slicks once you tip in... The slicks last a little bit longer, but they costs a little bit more... It's nearly a push. Typically I will run DOT's cuz they are legal for all classes, unless the specific size/compound I want is only available in the slick. The difference in traction of the DOT and slick RACE tire is absolutely negligable. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by NoQuarter#121; 06-26-2009 at 01:46 PM..

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