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jkester92 · 09-17-2009, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by theJrod

You said that about Haga.

Oh Yaaaaaa. Well, ahhhh .....ahhhhh...ahhhhh...Haga got hurt, Ya, thats it, The season isn't over yet. Its not fair because Spies is a Texan and Haga is Japanese and he can't see as well cause his eyes don't open all the way

You can't be serious, Spies is a mid pac moto gp at best

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matt3719 · 09-17-2009, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Jet City Racer

Ben will be right up in the mix in a very short period of time. He only rode the uncompetitive Suzuki 3 times last year and placed in the top 10 every time out.

i just said the exact same thing in the beginning of this thread and it goes right over everyones head

.. you said it alot clearer though.

SiCC · 09-17-2009, 05:36 PM

this is a bad move for spies. he's had one year of track exp in wsbk, the top gp guys know all the track extremely well. he should stay in wsbk one more year just for the track time.

you guys are forgetting stoner.... he's still on the team next year correct?

rossi/lorenzo 1/2...2/1.... im tossed.
stoner
pedrosa

i put spies anywhere from 5th to 8th. depending on support.

jkester92 · 09-17-2009, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by erickb

welcome to the team, now when can I take a duck and your car for a spin? In turn you can ride the pit bike from hell and one of my other bikes, I sugest the ape as it is the most fun you can have with 7 hp

Hey, anytime bud bud bud. If I'm not home just load em up and take em to the track, run the tires off um, beat em like they owe you money, and if you crash em just put the pieces in a heafty bag and drop em off in front of the garage. We're good, cause thats what friends are for

jkester92 · 09-17-2009, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by sicc

this is a bad move for spies. He's had one year of track exp in wsbk, the top gp guys know all the track extremely well. He should stay in wsbk one more year just for the track time.

You guys are forgetting stoner.... He's still on the team next year correct?

Rossi/lorenzo 1/2...2/1.... Im tossed.
Stoner
pedrosa

i put spies anywhere from 5th to 8th. Depending on support.

Paytheon · 09-17-2009, 05:50 PM

This is definately not a bad move for Ben. Plus, Yamaha has already put him on an M1 and knows his capabilities. My guess is Ben will have a decent rookie season in 2010, and do great things for Yamaha. It's a great move on Yamaha's part for sure.

matt3719 · 09-17-2009, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Paytheon

This is definately not a bad move for Ben. Plus, Yamaha has already put him on an M1 and knows his capabilities. My guess is Ben will have a decent rookie season in 2010, and do great things for Yamaha. It's a great move on Yamaha's part for sure.

yeah yamaha will need a new guy in the next few years and ben shows great courage.. hes brought alot of americas fans to the world level and im sure it will get alot of us back into the moto gp world.. myself at least.. bens been showing all those naysayers what hes really made of. already broken like three or four big big records in wsbk alone.. rossi is out in 2012 or so hes guessin and lorenzo doesnt seem to have the fan base that he should in his rank. if ben can fill has been haydens shoes for america and dominate id say hed have a great career.

fastfoodfred · 09-17-2009, 06:22 PM

Stoner gets the boot and his lovely wife is itching for a hero with a bigger crank, that fag Rossi takes his spot on the Ducati, Spies wins the title, and Hayden gets fired for being a pussy.....Ah, I can't wait for 2010. Yamaha will prove to be the best even without the best on it.

theJrod · 09-17-2009, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by jkester92

You can't be serious, Spies is a mid pac moto gp at best

Ya, what he said...

He already was mid pack... on a sub-par machine... with almost zero seat time... on new-to-him tracks.

He'll do better than mid-pack easily.

fastfoodfred · 09-17-2009, 07:17 PM

I need to add that at the time, Indy was new to all the riders. He was on a Suzuki, though and that alone should save him any embarasement for "only" being top ten.

Lone Rider · 09-17-2009, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by fastfoodfred

Stoner gets the boot and his lovely wife is itching for a hero with a bigger crank, that fag Rossi takes his spot on the Ducati, Spies wins the title, and Hayden gets fired for being a pussy.....Ah, I can't wait for 2010. Yamaha will prove to be the best even without the best on it.

Please be more clear..,
What do you really think??

I putting Ben in top 4 IF Stoner returns.

Honda, Suzuki and my beloved Kawasakis are just field fillers.

If Rossi is a fag, what does that make Daaannnny? A Pole Boy??

fastfoodfred · 09-17-2009, 07:57 PM

I was too vague. I am very sorry.

matt3719 · 09-17-2009, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by fastfoodfred

I need to add that at the time, Indy was new to all the riders. He was on a Suzuki, though and that alone should save him any embarasement for "only" being top ten.

uhh.. qualified like 8 or 9th at the british round his first weekend on a moto gp bike. after that he ran like 8th at laguna one hour after running the ama superbike and being mysteriously ill.. you all remembber that right? read some rrx..and 6th at indy. yeah the suzuki has alottt to say about it also... i think he did better then both suzuki riders probablly the whole year from the time he spent on the bike..

fastfoodfred · 09-17-2009, 08:02 PM

I can totally relate, Suzuki makes me sick to my stomach, too.

quik99 · 09-17-2009, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by matt3719

i just said the exact same thing in the beginning of this thread and it goes right over everyones head

.. you said it alot clearer though.

And Suzuki sucked far more last year than it does this year and he was able to get decent results on it. I think he can put it in the 5th or 6th spot pretty consistent. But as good as I think he is I dont see him taking on rossi and those guys just yet.

fastfoodfred · 09-17-2009, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by quik99

....as good as I think he is I dont see him taking on rossi and those guys just yet.

I do. The one race Bayless did in MotoGP, he won. Spies would be kicking his ass right now if Troy were man enough to still compete in SBK, too.

matt3719 · 09-17-2009, 10:47 PM

troy man enough? isnt he like 10 years or something man enough? hes an old man now aint he? he actually wanted to take on rossi and rossi backed down was the story i thought.. or rossi wanted alot of money?

matt3719 · 09-17-2009, 10:49 PM

capirossi and vermeulen had better results last year i think.. read a moto gp story on the website this last week where the head of suzuki was talking about it..

matt3719 · 09-17-2009, 10:50 PM

and amen about suzuki makin people sick.. somehow the midwest has enough drugs to not be affected though cause where i come from like 8 out of 10 bikes are suzuki. all the same squidly blue also...

tophyr · 09-18-2009, 01:11 AM

I'll believe it when me shit turns purple and smells like raspberry sherbert.

Or, when I see it on RRW or motogp.com. MCN is the motorcycle world's Enquirer.

Lone Rider · 09-18-2009, 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by tophyr

I'll believe it when me shit turns purple and smells like raspberry sherbert.

Or, when I see it on RRW or motogp.com. MCN is the motorcycle world's Enquirer.

Well thats true.
At least many British rags got nekkid wemmin !!

jwfzr · 09-18-2009, 04:01 AM

This is obviously the only move left for Spies. Kicking around another year in WSBK is pointless. If not GP then a side move to BSB would be ok. He went to WSBK and proved my point this season" that the talent level in WSBK is sub par" He is as talented as Rainey or Schwantz ever were. I don't see him playing second fiddle to Rossis little Texas Bitch either. This kid can ride and will win races very soon.

fastfoodfred · 09-18-2009, 06:07 AM

^^^I'll drink to that.

Finally an American I can support in MotoGP-Ben Speis.

Motophotog · 09-18-2009, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by tophyr

I'll believe it when me shit turns purple and smells like raspberry sherbert.

Or, when I see it on RRW or motogp.com. MCN is the motorcycle world's Enquirer.

The title for this thread was dedicated to all the haters, and folks that are still doubting Spies and his adaptability. People forget he's winning races in his first year at WSBK, on tracks he's NEVER been too!? That alone is insane. On a new machine, with NO data, and all the odds were stacked against him.

As Jared stated, he rode for suzuki, and did great on those, better than vermulen has scored, and hell he's on the bike every weekend. People here said he's past his prime, cant wrestle with european riders, cant stand to ride being bullied or pushed out of his line, cant ride competitively on new tracks..... Hell he's done it all. Ok end rant

Good to see actual motorcycle conversation on pnw..... i think i might be dreaming.

The flipside is......with no Haga in SBK next year, wheres his competition? Though I would have liked him to stay in wsbk next year too, though. I think Yamaha is scared that they will lose Rossi to retirement or to Ducati, and they dont want to loose their winning team.

Chris, i saw the reports on other sites as well. MCN seemed to be first is all

erickb · 09-18-2009, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by jkester92

Hey, anytime bud bud bud. If I'm not home just load em up and take em to the track, run the tires off um, beat em like they owe you money, and if you crash em just put the pieces in a heafty bag and drop em off in front of the garage. We're good, cause thats what friends are for

Lone Rider · 09-18-2009, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by jwfzr

This is obviously the only move left for Spies. Kicking around another year in WSBK is pointless. If not GP then a side move to BSB would be ok. He went to WSBK and proved my point this season" that the talent level in WSBK is sub par" He is as talented as Rainey or Schwantz ever were. I don't see him playing second fiddle to Rossis little Texas Bitch either. This kid can ride and will win races very soon.

I ate my crow, you was right!
Just as long as He kicks Hondas ass I will be happy.
I figure top 3 at end of the GP season.
We will see how the WSBK season settles out.
They both have had their DNF's etc.
With Haga hurting it will be tuff to keep it close, even with "Ducati tracks" still left to run.
Hope you got to see the races,(Tivo, internet whatever) its been a great series!

tophyr · 09-18-2009, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Motophotog

Chris, i saw the reports on other sites as well. MCN seemed to be first is all

No worries mate I wasn't really knocking anyone, just pointing out the unreliability of the source

This came out today:

Mary Spies: Ben Spies Is Signed To Race World Superbike, Not MotoGP In 2010

matt3719 · 09-18-2009, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by tophyr

No worries mate I wasn't really knocking anyone, just pointing out the unreliability of the source

This came out today:

Mary Spies: Ben Spies Is Signed To Race World Superbike, Not MotoGP In 2010

"Mary Spies said she did not want to add further fuel to the rumors, but she did acknowledge that nothing is impossible, that Yamaha may change its plans and her son may end up going to MotoGP in 2010 after all."

SEE she said it herself!! hes goin in 2010 but she doesnt want everyone to know yet!!

haha somebody call that deuchebag reporter that doesnt even ride that i cant remember what magg he is for..

jwfzr · 09-18-2009, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Lone Rider

I ate my crow, you was right!
Just as long as He kicks Hondas ass I will be happy.
I figure top 3 at end of the GP season.
We will see how the WSBK season settles out.
They both have had their DNF's etc.
With Haga hurting it will be tuff to keep it close, even with "Ducati tracks" still left to run.
Hope you got to see the races,(Tivo, internet whatever) its been a great series!

I too would love to see him kick the midget and Honda all over the place. I love my old Honda but man do I hate their evil racing empire. "which has long ago crumbled" Have only seen high lights so far. Hope to watch them all soon.

fastfoodfred · 09-18-2009, 08:32 PM

Who or what crumbled Honda's empire? That's right, Burgess, Yamaha, and of course Rossi.

jwfzr · 09-18-2009, 08:37 PM

Oh Fred Fred Fred, you could not be more wrong. Honda rotted from the inside out starting with letting your boi go. They have a nasty combination of arrogance and incompetence going all at once. Never have I seen an engineering dept. with so much ambition and so little talent. The sheep will try to make excuses for Rossi getting spanked again by an American but of his superior talent no one will doubt.

fastfoodfred · 09-18-2009, 09:09 PM

I really am starting to hope Rossi goes to Ducati, so I can learn to hate on him as you have, Master. [bows like OB1 to a Saudi Prince]

You are correct about Honda rotting from the inside. Their arrogance has lost many riders and the Championships they would have brought to their stables, but they choose to make the motorcycle the most important part of their team, instead. It is the only part of the equation they can completely control.

NoQuarter#121 · 09-18-2009, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by fastfoodfred

I do. The one race Bayless did in MotoGP, he won. Spies would be kicking his ass right now if Troy were man enough to still compete in SBK, too.

One race? what about the 2 years he sucked? Troy was not competitive on the Hondas... Which at the time (990cc RC211V) were by far, the best bikes on the grid.

Troy is a superbike rider.

I'm not saying he would whip Spies forever, but Troy (on a SuperBike made by Ducati) is head and shoulders above anyone Spies is facing right now.

Spies will have his work cut out for him. The current GP machinery is designed for midgets.

They are much more set up intensive than Super bikes.

I think Ben will do ok, but I will bet cash money, he can't beat Rossi in his first season barring a crash by the Doctor.

Spec tires will help his chances, but unless he is on a very experienced, well funded team he will not do very well.

Bet ya.

matt3719 · 09-18-2009, 09:42 PM

you could bet alittle more than just for rossi. hell id bet big money he wont be up anywhere around lorenzo or pedrosa for that matter. saying he might be competition with edwards is a good guess though.. im sure edwards will have a lot to let him in on about rossi and stuff so in a few years hes gonna be at the top im sure!

fastfoodfred · 09-18-2009, 09:47 PM

Anyone on the stupid Ducati is head and shoulders above anyone else because the rules are catered to those bikes. Bayless on any other brand is just another hard charger. Ducati in SBK is like Buell in AMA-cheaters within the rules.

matt3719 · 09-18-2009, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by fastfoodfred

Anyone on the stupid Ducati is head and shoulders above anyone else because the rules are catered to those bikes. Bayless on any other brand is just another hard charger. Ducati in SBK is like Buell in AMA-cheaters within the rules.

id argue with that statement but its useless. use a google search or something .

jwfzr · 09-18-2009, 10:46 PM

I cannot believe anyone would try to compare Spies skills to those of Edwards. Edwards competed and won in a second rate championship. "WSBK" What he's done in GP is actually just short of a miracle though. He's managed to keep his GP ride going long after he should have had his punk arse booted out. He's a suck up, tow the line, kiss the ass of the "proctologist" company Boi. He reminds me a bit of Mladin with about 1/10th the talent.
Spies has more talent in his Daytona burned off ass cheek than Edwards could ever dream of having. If his bike is anyplace close to that of a factory ride he'll be winning the series. GP bikes are made for midgets? Some yes. Honda but not the Yamaha. spies and the Proctologist are about the same height and weight.

the chemist · 09-19-2009, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by theJrod

He already was mid pack... on a sub-par machine... with almost zero seat time... on new-to-him tracks.

He'll do better than mid-pack easily.

He also said he wasn't/didn't push it because he didn't want to interfere with the season points.

I don't know why everyone forgets about Stoner. Mentioning that Pedrosa will be hard to beat and not Stoner is a JOKE.

Rossi, Jorge, Stoner, and Pedrosa are all very good racers. So is Spies, finishing what, 6th the third time he rode the bike. I dont think arguing the Suzuki wasn't a good bike is valid...because if he doesn't get full factory support that Tech 3 bike will be about the same. I doubt he will get full support, because Im guessing Yamaha knows he could run with the top guys...and that would make them look bad if he consistently finished with their factory bikes.

I think every weekend will be up in the air. Any weekend any of the top 4 guys could win, not to mention a few sleepers on occasion. I think Spies will consistently be somewhere around 4-6th with an occasional podium (assuming he doesn't get a lot of factory support). If he does...well then I think we could have a 5 way race almost every weekend.

fastfoodfred · 09-19-2009, 11:05 AM

Stoner had his 15 minutes of fame and it is now over, like Hayden. The planets aligned with the stars, and enough other people had off years that they accidentally fell onto the top of the pile.

Lone Rider · 09-19-2009, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by the chemist

I don't know why everyone forgets about Stoner. Mentioning that Pedrosa will be hard to beat and not Stoner is a JOKE.

We'll see about Stoner. He was dialed to the Duc his championship year. Not so well after it.He was a top 3 before mystery illness. We'll see

Originally Posted by the chemist

...because if he doesn't get full factory support that Tech 3 bike will be about the same. I doubt he will get full support, because Im guessing Yamaha knows he could run with the top guys...and that would make them look bad if he consistently finished with their factory bikes.

Yamaha will give as much help as they can if He's fighting for wins and podium. It isnt Honda. Rossi's contract is up so his political powers will be reduced....maybe. If He's winning(selling bikes, advertising) they wont care about their guys finishing behind Him, except they WILL put more effort into making the team bikes better.

Originally Posted by the chemist

I think every weekend will be up in the air. Any weekend any of the top 4 guys could win, not to mention a few sleepers on occasion. I think Spies will consistently be somewhere around 4-6th with an occasional podium (assuming he doesn't get a lot of factory support). If he does...well then I think we could have a 5 way race almost every weekend.

God I hope its that way!!!!!! Even a ugh, yuk, gag, patooie

..., Honda win on occasion would be good once in a while.


09-17-2009, 05:36 PM	#43
SiCC MotoGP Contender Joined: Apr 2006 From: Gig Harbor Isle I Ride: GSXR750, F4750	this is a bad move for spies. he's had one year of track exp in wsbk, the top gp guys know all the track extremely well. he should stay in wsbk one more year just for the track time. you guys are forgetting stoner.... he's still on the team next year correct? rossi/lorenzo 1/2...2/1.... im tossed. stoner pedrosa i put spies anywhere from 5th to 8th. depending on support. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-17-2009, 05:50 PM	#46
Paytheon Pit Crew Joined: Oct 2007 From: Hillsboro, OR I Ride: 07 YZF-R6 Candy Red	This is definately not a bad move for Ben. Plus, Yamaha has already put him on an M1 and knows his capabilities. My guess is Ben will have a decent rookie season in 2010, and do great things for Yamaha. It's a great move on Yamaha's part for sure. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-17-2009, 06:22 PM	#48
fastfoodfred Retired Joined: Mar 2006 From: spokane, wa I Ride: 2006 R6	Stoner gets the boot and his lovely wife is itching for a hero with a bigger crank, that fag Rossi takes his spot on the Ducati, Spies wins the title, and Hayden gets fired for being a pussy.....Ah, I can't wait for 2010. Yamaha will prove to be the best even without the best on it. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-17-2009, 07:17 PM	#50
fastfoodfred Retired Joined: Mar 2006 From: spokane, wa I Ride: 2006 R6	I need to add that at the time, Indy was new to all the riders. He was on a Suzuki, though and that alone should save him any embarasement for "only" being top ten. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-17-2009, 07:57 PM	#52
fastfoodfred Retired Joined: Mar 2006 From: spokane, wa I Ride: 2006 R6	I was too vague. I am very sorry. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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09-17-2009, 08:02 PM	#54
fastfoodfred Retired Joined: Mar 2006 From: spokane, wa I Ride: 2006 R6	I can totally relate, Suzuki makes me sick to my stomach, too. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-17-2009, 10:47 PM	#57
matt3719 Pit Crew Joined: Aug 2009 From: joplin, MO to pdx I Ride: 03 R1	troy man enough? isnt he like 10 years or something man enough? hes an old man now aint he? he actually wanted to take on rossi and rossi backed down was the story i thought.. or rossi wanted alot of money? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-17-2009, 10:49 PM	#58
matt3719 Pit Crew Joined: Aug 2009 From: joplin, MO to pdx I Ride: 03 R1	capirossi and vermeulen had better results last year i think.. read a moto gp story on the website this last week where the head of suzuki was talking about it.. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-17-2009, 10:50 PM	#59
matt3719 Pit Crew Joined: Aug 2009 From: joplin, MO to pdx I Ride: 03 R1	and amen about suzuki makin people sick.. somehow the midwest has enough drugs to not be affected though cause where i come from like 8 out of 10 bikes are suzuki. all the same squidly blue also... __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-18-2009, 01:11 AM	#60
tophyr Forum Cripple Joined: Dec 2005 From: Seattle, WA Blog Entries: 13 I Ride: Monsters by Fuzzy	I'll believe it when me shit turns purple and smells like raspberry sherbert. Or, when I see it on RRW or motogp.com. MCN is the motorcycle world's Enquirer. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-18-2009, 04:01 AM	#62
jwfzr Two Wheel Art Joined: Oct 2004 From: Indy Valley North Blog Entries: 4 I Ride: cbr900rr	This is obviously the only move left for Spies. Kicking around another year in WSBK is pointless. If not GP then a side move to BSB would be ok. He went to WSBK and proved my point this season" that the talent level in WSBK is sub par" He is as talented as Rainey or Schwantz ever were. I don't see him playing second fiddle to Rossis little Texas Bitch either. This kid can ride and will win races very soon. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-18-2009, 06:07 AM	#63
fastfoodfred Retired Joined: Mar 2006 From: spokane, wa I Ride: 2006 R6	^^^I'll drink to that. Finally an American I can support in MotoGP-Ben Speis. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-18-2009, 08:32 PM	#70
fastfoodfred Retired Joined: Mar 2006 From: spokane, wa I Ride: 2006 R6	Who or what crumbled Honda's empire? That's right, Burgess, Yamaha, and of course Rossi. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-18-2009, 08:37 PM	#71
jwfzr Two Wheel Art Joined: Oct 2004 From: Indy Valley North Blog Entries: 4 I Ride: cbr900rr	Oh Fred Fred Fred, you could not be more wrong. Honda rotted from the inside out starting with letting your boi go. They have a nasty combination of arrogance and incompetence going all at once. Never have I seen an engineering dept. with so much ambition and so little talent. The sheep will try to make excuses for Rossi getting spanked again by an American but of his superior talent no one will doubt. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-18-2009, 09:09 PM	#72
fastfoodfred Retired Joined: Mar 2006 From: spokane, wa I Ride: 2006 R6	I really am starting to hope Rossi goes to Ducati, so I can learn to hate on him as you have, Master. [bows like OB1 to a Saudi Prince] You are correct about Honda rotting from the inside. Their arrogance has lost many riders and the Championships they would have brought to their stables, but they choose to make the motorcycle the most important part of their team, instead. It is the only part of the equation they can completely control. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-18-2009, 09:42 PM	#74
matt3719 Pit Crew Joined: Aug 2009 From: joplin, MO to pdx I Ride: 03 R1	you could bet alittle more than just for rossi. hell id bet big money he wont be up anywhere around lorenzo or pedrosa for that matter. saying he might be competition with edwards is a good guess though.. im sure edwards will have a lot to let him in on about rossi and stuff so in a few years hes gonna be at the top im sure! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-18-2009, 09:47 PM	#75
fastfoodfred Retired Joined: Mar 2006 From: spokane, wa I Ride: 2006 R6	Anyone on the stupid Ducati is head and shoulders above anyone else because the rules are catered to those bikes. Bayless on any other brand is just another hard charger. Ducati in SBK is like Buell in AMA-cheaters within the rules. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-18-2009, 10:46 PM	#77
jwfzr Two Wheel Art Joined: Oct 2004 From: Indy Valley North Blog Entries: 4 I Ride: cbr900rr	I cannot believe anyone would try to compare Spies skills to those of Edwards. Edwards competed and won in a second rate championship. "WSBK" What he's done in GP is actually just short of a miracle though. He's managed to keep his GP ride going long after he should have had his punk arse booted out. He's a suck up, tow the line, kiss the ass of the "proctologist" company Boi. He reminds me a bit of Mladin with about 1/10th the talent. Spies has more talent in his Daytona burned off ass cheek than Edwards could ever dream of having. If his bike is anyplace close to that of a factory ride he'll be winning the series. GP bikes are made for midgets? Some yes. Honda but not the Yamaha. spies and the Proctologist are about the same height and weight. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-19-2009, 11:05 AM	#79
fastfoodfred Retired Joined: Mar 2006 From: spokane, wa I Ride: 2006 R6	Stoner had his 15 minutes of fame and it is now over, like Hayden. The planets aligned with the stars, and enough other people had off years that they accidentally fell onto the top of the pile. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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