God damn you turn 4 - Page 2

SiCC · 09-21-2011, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by YamahaBlue

since we are talking about turn 4... start at 9:00 that's me almost eating it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPDSa01ekh0

why arent your mirrors taped up?

gannonjf · 09-21-2011, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by sicc

why arent your mirrors taped up?

tor.

mnewell · 09-21-2011, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by SiCC

why arent your mirrors taped up?

Probably cuz it's ToR...

Avboden · 09-21-2011, 10:21 PM

too much throttle coming out while still leaned over, spit you right off! Didn't look to be too bad. I assume you're okay?

anthonycbr · 09-21-2011, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by Avboden

too much throttle coming out while still leaned over, spit you right off! Didn't look to be too bad. I assume you're okay?

yeah im fine except my knee is the size of a softball other then that not to bad a little scratch on my neck nothing time cant heal

YamahaBlue · 09-21-2011, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by SiCC

why arent your mirrors taped up?

If they were taped up I wouldn't be able to see how good I look on the racetrack.

anthonycbr · 09-21-2011, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by yamahablue

if they were taped up i wouldn't be able to see how good i look on the racetrack.

lol

Sentor · 09-21-2011, 11:21 PM

That definitely could have been a lot worse. Broken collarbone, shoulder, dislocated shoulder, concussion.

Glad you're ok!

Lucid Dreamer · 09-22-2011, 04:49 AM

glad your ok, that looked pretty bad

rmorten · 09-22-2011, 05:09 AM

Anthony,

I am truly bummed; you were supposed to keep me awake on the ride home Sunday... Glad you are alive and will soon be walking normal again! Take care of that knee.

Veloc · 09-22-2011, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by YamahaBlue

If they were taped up I wouldn't be able to see how good I look on the racetrack.

Repp'd.

07 ZX6R · 09-22-2011, 06:30 AM

This is how you do it...
http://youtu.be/a0bgTBk_HaA?hd=1

jnicola · 09-22-2011, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by Avboden

too much throttle coming out while still leaned over, spit you right off! Didn't look to be too bad. I assume you're okay?

Plus given it's in what appears to be a fairly sharp turn, the suspension is probably compressed. Getting on the throttle while the suspension is still compressed is going to be rough as when the rear wheel steps out, it now has the suspension compression trying to push the wheel as well, which adds to the bike kicking out.

Andy Capp · 09-22-2011, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by cobra525

Anthony.

The title of this thread should be "God Dam you right hand"

Like. There are quite a few suggestions here so maybe someone can set me straight on the basics. I thought your drive started when you can pick the bike up out of the turn without running off track. The traction equation, decrease lean as you increase throttle. Ie not trying to lean more and gas it on the way out.

Originally Posted by YamahaBlue

If they were taped up I wouldn't be able to see how good I look on the racetrack.

Lol'd at this.

Hope your knee and bike are not too bad, Anthony. Heal up fast.

cobra525 · 09-22-2011, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by Andy Capp

Like. There are quite a few suggestions here so maybe someone can set me straight on the basics. I thought your drive started when you can pick the bike up out of the turn without running off track. The traction equation, decrease lean as you increase throttle. Ie not trying to lean more and gas it on the way out.

Your drive really starts shortly after you go from off throttle/brakes to on throttle/maintnence, that's whe the roll on starts. (in a nutshell)

jnicola · 09-22-2011, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by cobra525

Your drive really starts shortly after you go from off throttle/brakes to on throttle/maintnence, that's whe the roll on starts. (in a nutshell)

I think a lot of people fail to mention that you can keep this transition REALLY smooth with clutch control...

Andy Capp · 09-22-2011, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by cobra525

Your drive really starts shortly after you go from off throttle/brakes to on throttle/maintnence, that's whe the roll on starts. (in a nutshell)

But from a timing point of view, When you transition from the roll on to the increased rate of acceleration for the drive out happens at the same time as you transition from a steady lean angle to picking the bike up? Granted one action feeds smoothly into the next but they are separate parts, no?

I realise that being down in the peak torque curve for your bike instead of being higher in the power band makes it easier to spin up the rear and chopping once the rear slides is bad but isnt continuing to increase lean angle and throttle bad too?

Looked like Anthony was over steering out of the corners. I don't know if it is just something I see because I tend to do it too. I've had a little slide out of T4 too and I'm very conscious of it.

dwschultzy · 09-22-2011, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by jnicola

I think a lot of people fail to mention that you can keep this transition REALLY smooth with clutch control...

lol

Seraphim38 · 09-22-2011, 09:48 AM

I am lucky that I have never tossed my salad in turn 4, but I have slid both the front and rear across the bumpy pavement in the apex and pushed wide on exit. Then again, I had a massively divine lowside from losing the rear end coming out of T2, followed by epic cartwheeling of the bike in mid air.

Glad you are going to be ok.

late apex · 09-22-2011, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by jnicola

I think a lot of people fail to mention that you can keep this transition REALLY smooth with clutch control...

Originally Posted by dwschultzy

lol

agreed


09-21-2011, 10:21 PM	#24
Avboden Moto2 Contender Joined: Oct 2007 From: from Wa, living on Grenada (island) I Ride: 2007 BMW F800S, 1999 ATK 605 ESDS/SM	too much throttle coming out while still leaned over, spit you right off! Didn't look to be too bad. I assume you're okay? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-21-2011, 11:21 PM	#28
Sentor Novice Racer Joined: Feb 2006 From: Beaverton, OR I Ride: 2008 R6 Race Bike - #52 - And whatever's in the shop!	That definitely could have been a lot worse. Broken collarbone, shoulder, dislocated shoulder, concussion. Glad you're ok! __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-22-2011, 04:49 AM	#29
Lucid Dreamer Peg Dragger Joined: May 2009 From: Camas I Ride: Triumph 09 D675	glad your ok, that looked pretty bad __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-22-2011, 05:09 AM	#30
rmorten Chicken Strips Joined: Aug 2010 From: Federal Way, WA I Ride: in a vanpool	Anthony, I am truly bummed; you were supposed to keep me awake on the ride home Sunday... Glad you are alive and will soon be walking normal again! Take care of that knee. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-22-2011, 06:30 AM	#32
07 ZX6R Pit Crew Joined: Aug 2007 From: Poulsbo, WA I Ride: 07 ZX10, 07 ZX6	This is how you do it... http://youtu.be/a0bgTBk_HaA?hd=1 __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-22-2011, 09:48 AM	#39
Seraphim38 Endorsed Joined: Jun 2011 From: Woodinville, WA I Ride: Suzuki SV650	I am lucky that I have never tossed my salad in turn 4, but I have slid both the front and rear across the bumpy pavement in the apex and pushed wide on exit. Then again, I had a massively divine lowside from losing the rear end coming out of T2, followed by epic cartwheeling of the bike in mid air. Glad you are going to be ok. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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