Roll Call: July 12th @ The Ridge w/OPRT - Page 24

yard sale · 07-26-2012, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by theJrod

I'd very much like to you come out and try an OPRT event before you make such generalized statements.

1. i think he was talking about intermediate level in general but thats 100% assumption on my part.
2. you and or dan should pm a track time mod and shut this shit show down. its gone on way too long and is no where near a roll call/that was fun thread at this point.
3. sentor should be bant from all oprt days because of all his law suit talk. that shits scary and completely uncalled for.

S1KRR · 07-26-2012, 02:04 PM

So far, I've ridden in a total 8 track days last year and this summer with 2-Fast and OPRT, with all of my riding in the 200 or intermediate level. While I've seen a fair number of accidents / track runoffs, I've seen very few incidents where riders have been riding in an outright dangerous manner toward other riders.

I also think that the track marshals / instructors with 2-Fast and OPRT do a pretty good job "policing" the riders, however, unfortunately they can't be everywhere all of the time and sometimes bikes/riders will make contact. As I gain more experience on the track, I am less worried about incidents on the track as I am getting better at moving through traffic and assessing other rider's behavior /tendencies and adjusting my lines as necessary to keep an adequate "cushion" between us. It also helps that there are fewer riders coming up from behind me now as my speeds have increased, so for now the only potential "threats" are mainly in front of me.

88dx · 07-26-2012, 02:20 PM

Is this thread over yet

lonelyAngels · 07-26-2012, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by mattinski

Thank you theJrod and Andy Capp for great observations. The 200 level really needs some changes. When I first moved up to 200 I thought this was a faster, safer group with experienced riders who can control their bikes, their ride and look out for each other. That is frequently not the case. 200 has a lot of hot shots riding over their head trying desperately to get into the 300 groups. Most of the accidents are in 200. What does that tell you?

We all want to ride faster and safer. We all accept the risks involved in this fun sport. I just want the reckless behavior eliminated so we can learn to ride faster and safer.

In general I agree with what you are trying to say, but not entirely. You'll find people riding over the head in every level. I've had two crashes on the track neither my fault, both were in 300.

I don't know how much track experience you have, but as you get more you are less and less worried about what other people are doing as you'll be able to navigate through them, not be freaked out by the occasional tight pass or coming into a corner right next to each other. More seat time == more confidence.

I personally haven't witnessed people riding way over their head to get into 300...not sure what the prize is for being in 300, but if there is one I sure never got it.

99% of the riders I've encountered don't want to crash or ride reckless. As jared pointed out however, we are all pusing through personal limits and make mistakes. It's really unfortunate when those mistakes involve someone else, but it's the risk we take doing this sport.

With all that said, this thread has been beat to death. Someone please close this train wreck.

TRAIL BOSS · 07-26-2012, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by yard sale

1. i think he was talking about intermediate level in general but thats 100% assumption on my part.
2. you and or dan should pm a track time mod and shut this shit show down. its gone on way too long and is no where near a roll call/that was fun thread at this point.
3. sentor should be bant from all oprt days because of all his law suit talk. that shits scary and completely uncalled for.

All of these.

This thread needs to go away.

Wyckedan · 07-26-2012, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by TRAIL BOSS

All of these.

This thread needs to go away.

Reported

TRAIL BOSS · 07-26-2012, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Wyckedan

Reported

fisherz28 · 07-26-2012, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by TRAIL BOSS

Despite your best efforts, V is a roman numeral. Lets see what you wagered....

dwschultzy · 07-26-2012, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by mattinski

Thank you theJrod and Andy Capp for great observations. The 200 level really needs some changes. When I first moved up to 200 I thought this was a faster, safer group with experienced riders who can control their bikes, their ride and look out for each other. That is frequently not the case. 200 has a lot of hot shots riding over their head trying desperately to get into the 300 groups. Most of the accidents are in 200. What does that tell you?

We all want to ride faster and safer. We all accept the risks involved in this fun sport. I just want the reckless behavior eliminated so we can learn to ride faster and safer.

I hate to break this too you, but the intermediate/level 2/200 levels will always be the group with the majority of the problems. It doesn't matter what org you're with. Just the nature of the group.

And just a little FYI. When you get into the advanced groups, you get the same assholes trying to prove themselves. Just the simple nature of putting a bunch of type A mentality people at the same place at the same time. You just hope that the majority of them can somewhat keep their ego's in check......somewhat.

I am also putting my vote in for closing this thread. Yes, the incident was caused by someone riding waaaaaay over not just their abilities, but the groups pace. Still doesn't need to call out for banning and the legal talk is just a bunch of silly nilly pansy talk.

lacy124 · 07-26-2012, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by dwschultzy

i hate to break this too you, but the intermediate/level 2/200 levels will always be the group with the majority of the problems. It doesn't matter what org you're with. Just the nature of the group.

And just a little fyi. When you get into the advanced groups, you get the same assholes trying to prove themselves. Just the simple nature of putting a bunch of type a mentality people at the same place at the same time. You just hope that the majority of them can somewhat keep their ego's in check......somewhat.

I am also putting my vote in for closing this thread. Yes, the incident was caused by someone riding waaaaaay over not just their abilities, but the groups pace. Still doesn't need to call out for banning and the legal talk is just a bunch of silly nilly pansy talk.

yep

PeteN95 · 07-26-2012, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by dwschultzy

I hate to break this too you, but the intermediate/level 2/200 levels will always be the group with the majority of the problems. It doesn't matter what org you're with. Just the nature of the group.

Yep and we're done here.


07-26-2012, 02:04 PM	#462
S1KRR Licensed Joined: Aug 2010 From: Renton, WA I Ride: BMW S1000RR, Suzuki SV650	So far, I've ridden in a total 8 track days last year and this summer with 2-Fast and OPRT, with all of my riding in the 200 or intermediate level. While I've seen a fair number of accidents / track runoffs, I've seen very few incidents where riders have been riding in an outright dangerous manner toward other riders. I also think that the track marshals / instructors with 2-Fast and OPRT do a pretty good job "policing" the riders, however, unfortunately they can't be everywhere all of the time and sometimes bikes/riders will make contact. As I gain more experience on the track, I am less worried about incidents on the track as I am getting better at moving through traffic and assessing other rider's behavior /tendencies and adjusting my lines as necessary to keep an adequate "cushion" between us. It also helps that there are fewer riders coming up from behind me now as my speeds have increased, so for now the only potential "threats" are mainly in front of me. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-26-2012, 02:20 PM	#463
88dx Shredder Joined: Jan 2008 From: Bellingham I Ride: On the sidewalk	Is this thread over yet __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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