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Old 08-07-2012, 09:39 AM   #1
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Any racers here have any experience with Flat Track?
I watched the Flat Track grand nationals at Castle Rock this weekend, it was my first experience seeing flat track and it looked like a huge amount of fun! I was curious if there were any racers that have done both and could comment on whether doing flat track is helpful, hurtful, or neutral to going fast around a road course on a race bike. The technique looks exactly opposite of what we do on the road, they push the bike down and stay on top perpendicular to the ground instead of getting the body off and keeping the bike as perpendicular as possible. Anyway, would love to hear anyone's comments on this ! I would definitely go try out the American Supercamp if it didn't run concurrently with the STAR school :(.

Brandon

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Old 08-07-2012, 09:51 AM   #2
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A lot of the us road racers that made it to the GP level started on flat track and still use it to train. Off the top of my head: the Haydens, Kenny Roberts, Wayne Rainey, Colin Edwards as well as a majority of the AMA grid.

So yes, I would say it helps. I've heard Pacific is putting in a track if so I will be buying a bike and trying not to die out there

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Old 08-07-2012, 09:56 AM   #3
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Pm peten95. He's gonna be able to point you in the right direction.

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Old 08-07-2012, 10:40 AM   #4
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YES..... If you are serious about your Road racing you should try some flattrackin.. I started racing flattrack at age 5. I quit when I was 35. There are a few tracks around here too so during racing season you have races most every weekend. Its so cool to go from a short track to a 1/2 mile then to the TT then to a bull ring shorttrack like rainier in consecutive weekends.. You want to learn skills this is how its done. I was never a superstar by any means but I could pull a hole shot off most days.. I won a couple races.. Want info let me know we can get ya set up...

Mike

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Old 08-07-2012, 11:43 AM   #5
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I Ride: Mille, kx250, kx500 SM, rd400, yz450
I think all types of racing compliment each other weather it be road racing, flat rack, mx, supermoto, enduro, trials ect....

Washington local Joe Kopp is a great example, he is one hell of an enduro racer, then went on to win a grand national championship which I believe he was the 1st racer to ever win all 3 classes in the ama in the same year, great supermoto racer then went on to roadrace the xr1200 and do pretty well for never racing roadcourse stuff. That guy can jump on anything with two wheels and rip it!!! And he is a super nice guy always willing to help anyone.

He is now running the flat track racing in spokane.

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Old 08-07-2012, 12:20 PM   #6
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Flat track races in Rainier WA this weekend

http://www.dandwracing.com/schedule.htm

Steve

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Old 08-07-2012, 12:25 PM   #7
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IMO, any time on 2 wheels is helpful.
But not required.

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Old 08-07-2012, 12:46 PM   #8
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I think Micky Fey does clinics too

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Old 08-07-2012, 09:06 PM   #9
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I think it definitely helps get a feel for the edge of traction, controlling slides of the front and rear tires, and using body english to control the bike. Plus it's just a whole lot of fun! It's also pretty cheap, all you need is a Supermoto or MXer with dirt track tire in back and a dual sport tire up front. You can run at Castle Rock, Rainier, or Hannagan in Bham.

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Old 08-07-2012, 10:07 PM   #10
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Flat track is awesome you should give it a go. Cheep and easy. A bike and tires.
Mike Annen used a mostly stock DRZ400, had a great time and he's old.



Only thing I ever learned is how to keep my nerves/emotions in check while watching Redbullrider for two years beat up on the younger and stronger on a bike I helped bolt together.
Every part of a bike runs through your mind when someone else is racing it.

Oh yea, I learned I was too slow to be out there. It was better for me to wrench and him ride. The other way around would have been a catastrophe!

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