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Old 08-13-2012, 07:15 PM   #1
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In-Helmet Communication on the Track?
Has anyone ever used in-helmet communicators during a track day? I just picked up a Scala Rider G9 so that my wife and I could chat while we're riding together, but I'd actually love to have a real-time coach follow me around (or lead me) and give me advice while I'm riding.

Has anyone done this? Is it helpful, or distracting? Are there any schools that do this?

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Old 08-13-2012, 07:19 PM   #2
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seems like a terrible idear.

i have zero track time under my belt, but i wouldn't want anyone yacking away in my ear. especially my wife.

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Old 08-13-2012, 07:20 PM   #3
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this is actually a good idea. I would have learned so much more at the track day I did.

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Old 08-13-2012, 07:21 PM   #4
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It would be pretty sweet. Then when doing a track days during the week I could still make conference calls.

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Old 08-13-2012, 07:50 PM   #5
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My long answer: bad idea


Short answer: it might be possible in only the advanced forms of teaching/coaching.

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Old 08-13-2012, 07:57 PM   #6
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I thought I read somewhere about one of the big schools using helmet-to-helmet comms... ??? I can't remember who...

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Old 08-13-2012, 08:36 PM   #7
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I thought I read somewhere about one of the big schools using helmet-to-helmet comms... ??? I can't remember who...
Doug Polen does it

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Old 08-13-2012, 08:57 PM   #8
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Always wanted this when I raced mx. Thought it would be awesome to have my mechanic telling me when some one is about to come up on me for a pass, and what line to take to block. Or tell me when someone is using a faster line in a section that I'm not seeing.

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Old 08-13-2012, 09:09 PM   #9
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Always wanted this when I raced mx. Thought it would be awesome to have my mechanic telling me when some one is about to come up on me for a pass, and what line to take to block. Or tell me when someone is using a faster line in a section that I'm not seeing.
In a race, that is way too much like cheating. This is a 1 man sport. Once the flag drops, it's you and your machine.

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Old 08-13-2012, 09:15 PM   #10
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It would be nice to tell everyone passing me to fuck off

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Old 08-13-2012, 10:33 PM   #11
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It would be nice to tell everyone passing me to fuck off
Wouldn't you end up losing your voice?

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Old 08-13-2012, 10:41 PM   #12
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Wouldn't you end up losing your voice?


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Old 08-13-2012, 11:35 PM   #13
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On a typical trackday: No.
In a much more controlled environment like a racing school: Yes.

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Old 08-14-2012, 12:13 AM   #14
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My long answer: bad idea


Short answer: it might be possible in only the advanced forms of teaching/coaching.
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On a typical trackday: No.
In a much more controlled environment like a racing school: Yes.
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Old 08-14-2012, 12:38 AM   #15
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Old 08-14-2012, 01:33 AM   #16
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No. Haven't done it. Not sure I want to. At least not a two way. I don't think I want anybody hearing me screaming to myself.

At the end of the straight...'oh crap oh crap oh craaaap'.

After the first turn...'oh thank god'

Going in to the next turn and the rest after that...'omg, holy crap, here we go again'.

After each of those next turns...'oh my freaking god, I'm still alive, whew'.

At the beginning of the straight...'oh hell, I gotta go i gotta go'.

When the flag comes out ending the session...'noooooooo noooo noooooo'.

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Old 08-14-2012, 07:21 PM   #17
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Hmmm. I don't think I'd like that too much. You'd be concentrating on what someone else is saying at 160+ mph. Not a good idea. Your total concentration better be on what's going on to your front.

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Old 08-14-2012, 08:17 PM   #18
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Oh, oops. I found where I initially read that - not m/c related. It was in the course description for DirtFish's rally school.

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Old 08-14-2012, 10:04 PM   #19
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I agree with what others have said about not having the extra distraction of someone coaching while you are riding at your limits of comfort. I do have chatterboxes for street riding and use them all the time.

But at the track I can't see it working at all. The wind and intake noise from my bike are crazy loud the few times I've raced and had an ear plug slip out. There is no way I could hear anything out of the little speakers installed in the helmet. I suppose if some custom earbuds were used you might be able to hear something, but if the bike behind you is doing the talking you would probably only hear the wind/intake noise from their mic anyway.

Honestly, the best way I've learned to improve is by following faster riders and instructors. Time behind the bars while practicing the right things is what it's all about.
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:40 PM   #20
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But at the track I can't see it working at all. The wind and intake noise from my bike are crazy loud the few times I've raced and had an ear plug slip out. There is no way I could hear anything out of the little speakers installed in the helmet. I suppose if some custom earbuds were used you might be able to hear something, but if the bike behind you is doing the talking you would probably only hear the wind/intake noise from their mic anyway.
Not disagreeing at all with what has been said about it not being a good idea on an open track day, but on this point -- with earbud headphones and a properly placed mic, it's actually surprisingly effective. Not as noisy as you'd think. But yes, the speaker type is worthless at high speed on a sport bike. I've used a Cardo, Chatterbox, and now a Sena (awesome unit, actually).

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