Remember: Bikes crash on cold tires BECAUSE OF BAD RIDER INPUTS, NOT THE TIRES..... Anyone can hop on a bike with stone cold tires, get them warmed up quickly, and get on pace.

Q2's Do not need warmers and in my opinion, you would be worse off running warmers on them. You will cook them past their optimal temps, only to cool them down as soon as you get on the track. These tires were designed to not run warmers. Take that for what it's worth.

And besides that, Jesse PROMISES....so that means everything!

I'm with everyone else on the not needing warmers for q2's.

FastFoodFred is old and doesn't realize tire technology has come a long ways since he raced. You simply won't heat cycle a tire to death unless you're at the very very top of club racing....even then, I don't think they heat cycle them too much, just simply loose that initial fabulous grip race tires have.
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You can't heat cycle a street tire to death. They're designed to go through countless heat cycles.




That said. I'm a huge fan of being confident with my equipment. Couple years ago, you wouldn't convince me that I didn't need warmers when going out on the track. Now, through experience, I know better. That said, money does buy confidence. I just wouldn't waste that money on using them on q2's.




Long story: You don't need them now.

Short story: Buy the equipment if its a great deal. If you plan on advancing your track days into racing or getting more track/race oriented tires.....you'll want to have them anyway.

want to rep, but cannot.

Went ahead and got um. Btw coupon code : forum gets you 10 percent off. The Dunlop Site says for q2s you should use Tire warmers at 158 degrees if the ambient temperature is below 60 degrees. And that it is optional. The warmers I got heat to 170 degrees. Is that a big deal or just fine? And should I put them on right after my session for 40 min or just 20 min before my next session?

Well, at least know nothing guys like me get some good advice from threads like this, even if the ops promptly ignore the advice they sought.

Thanks guys.

..I didn't ignore anything. I took all of the input into consideration and gathered that I do not NEED them, which i knew, but could get extra laps of fun out of each of my sessions if I had them and that it will help give me confidence which is important.
Considering I will need them eventually anyway and they are a good deal.

I picked them up.

Track days are expensive, now I wont have to waste a lap or two of every session.
Thanks for the input guys btw

I always hate when folks post pics as "proof".....so i'm going to be a huge hypocrite here.



This was my second lap on a bike I had never rode before...on q2's. No warmers. Just went out and rode the bike.

The tires are good and gsxr's are the best.

Awesome photog if you ask me.

The tires are good and gsxr's are the best.

I always hate when folks post pics as "proof".....so i'm going to be a huge hypocrite here.



This was my second lap on a bike I had never ridden before...on q2's. No warmers. Just went out and rode the bike.

The tires are good and gsxr's are the best.

I always hate when folks post pics as "proof".....that my tires were cold, and im clearly sliding the rear tire in this picture

First of all, let me just say that Donny is a goof.



Okay, with that outta the way... I just bought an old track bike to come play with you guys and it has Q2's on it. They have been ran for 2 track days but at the most sedate pace I'd hardly call it track riding.

Soooo, I'll be at the dull end of the Advanced group at the Ridge next week, what should I expect out of these things? I've run NTECS and GPA's for the past couple years and started the year on a set of new Pirelli's which I hated - just for reference.

If you're waiting 2 laps to feel confident on your tires, and you're at PIR running 1:20's in 18 minute sessions, you're getting about 14 laps total (13.82 ish for an 18 minute session, two for switch in/out), 2 of which you're spending worried about tire warmth. That's roughly 14% of every session. Cheap tire warmers run $150 or so, delivered to your door. Track days at PIR run $150 or so on average. 14% of an average track day is spent worrying about cold tires... so that's $21 worth of track time roughly.

In 7 PIR track days your tire warmers will have paid for themselves in additional safe/full speed track time.

Go to a track like ORP, where 2:00 lap times are a safe average to go from, and you spend 1.5 laps warming up, and there are 9 laps per session... you're seeing 16% or so at ORP. Average ORP day being $180 or so... that's $28.80 per track day at ORP.

In 5 ORP track days your tire warmers will have paid for themselves in additional safe/full speed track time.

Added bonuses include less likely of sliding around (and possibly crashing) on cold tires, less tire heat cycles so prolonged life, and more likely for a giant erection sooner due to being able to hit turn 1 like it owes you money right away...so really there isn't a reason not to buy them if you're going to be into track days for even a year or two.

Soooo, I'll be at the dull end of the Advanced group at the Ridge next week, what should I expect out of these things? I've run NTECS and GPA's for the past couple years and started the year on a set of new Pirelli's which I hated - just for reference.