Nesba 5/30 - Page 6

Motophotog · 06-01-2008, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by eric

I just think of a professional as someone who makes a living off it. There's lots of people who make money off photography around here but not really professional. meh, doesn't really matter.

A semi-pro photographer is one who is paid money for their work thus is not an amateur, but for whom is not a full-time occupation, generally because the level of pay is too low to make a reasonable living based solely upon that source, thus making the photograher not a full professional ...

Who cares anyway, is really the right answer!

I saw a lot of people out along the T-9 to bus stop fence, by the Lotus driving school building... kinda cool to see people coming to hang out and watch a trackday, not just racing.

Motophotog · 06-01-2008, 02:34 PM

[QUOTE=jbcjr;1174060]

Originally Posted by eric

See! Another ass who had to go out and get 2 seconds faster! Stop.
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Ass???

Hey jim! I saw you wheelin away around 4:30pm, didnt catch up with you, nice ride!

jbcjr · 06-01-2008, 04:45 PM

[QUOTE=revhard;1174457]

Originally Posted by jbcjr

Hey jim! I saw you wheelin away around 4:30pm, didnt catch up with you, nice ride!

Thanks... I can't believe the difference b/t the 2 bikes. The Gxxr is so much easier to ride - so much lighter and handles much better at high speeds (or at least it gave me that impression). Definitely a confidence inspiring machine... I can hardly wait to get it back on the track.

Motophotog · 06-01-2008, 04:52 PM

[QUOTE=jbcjr;1174588]

Originally Posted by revhard

Thanks... I can't believe the difference b/t the 2 bikes. The Gxxr is so much easier to ride - so much lighter and handles much better at high speeds (or at least it gave me that impression). Definitely a confidence inspiring machine... I can hardly wait to get it back on the track.

So what you're saying is you plan on staying in front of me next round?? How much HP that thing puttin down?

Got a pic comin of you on your new bike. should be up in ten min.

MikeM · 06-01-2008, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by penpen

Still, it's not their job to do so, and there is an assumed code of conduct if you're going out there. I've been out with other groups who have similar staffing to NESBA and allow people to watch from inside.

I'm not arguing for or against having other photogs or spectators in the in field. Different groups have different policies and that is understandable. But there's no reason to start calling names 'cause someone made a suggestion in passing. It's a valid question.

We have tried letting people cross into the infield with the the thought that they won't do anything stupid. Unfortunately almost every time we end up with someone way too close to the track or in completely the wrong spot. I even had to red flag a session and take the crash track down to turn 7 because someone who promised me they would stay where they were supposed to was sitting in front of the airfence in T-7 because it was a really cool angle

He didn't understand why we were so pissed off at him.

So like most of the other track day orgs we don't allow people to cross the track at all anymore. We don't have the staff available to police it like WMRRA does.

Motophotog · 06-01-2008, 05:50 PM

Pics here..

http://www.pnwriders.com/pictures/74...-pictures.html

penpen · 06-01-2008, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by MikeM

We have tried letting people cross into the infield with the the thought that they won't do anything stupid. Unfortunately almost every time we end up with someone way too close to the track or in completely the wrong spot. I even had to red flag a session and take the crash track down to turn 7 because someone who promised me they would stay where they were supposed to was sitting in front of the airfence in T-7 because it was a really cool angle

He didn't understand why we were so pissed off at him.

So like most of the other track day orgs we don't allow people to cross the track at all anymore. We don't have the staff available to police it like WMRRA does.

makes sense

too bad a few dumbasses need to ruin it for everyone else.

jbcjr · 06-01-2008, 07:30 PM

[QUOTE=revhard;1174596]

Originally Posted by jbcjr

So what you're saying is you plan on staying in front of me next round?? How much HP that thing puttin down?

Got a pic comin of you on your new bike. should be up in ten min.

Sweet pics Darren!!! HP??? I would think at least 165+

Let me know if you have anymore pics... keep up the good work.

Mr Sunshine · 06-01-2008, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by penpen

Still, it's not their job to do so, and there is an assumed code of conduct if you're going out there. I've been out with other groups who have similar staffing to NESBA and allow people to watch from inside.

I'm not arguing for or against having other photogs or spectators in the in field. Different groups have different policies and that is understandable. But there's no reason to start calling names 'cause someone made a suggestion in passing. It's a valid question.

It is absolutly the organizer's job to watch the people they allow into places where they could have direct impact to the riders on the track. This means WMRRA is responsabile for watching out for the spectators and photog's they allow across the track. This is why you have to sign a waiver to be a photog at a wmrra event and you get your purple jersey.

Motophotog · 06-01-2008, 09:51 PM

[QUOTE=jbcjr;1174865]

Originally Posted by revhard

Sweet pics Darren!!! HP??? I would think at least 165+

Let me know if you have anymore pics... keep up the good work.

165+hp!?!?!?! Well crap. Gimme a 1 lap lead plz!

Sweet machine. Suspension goods too. Good bike!

penpen · 06-01-2008, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Sunshine

It is absolutly the organizer's job to watch the people they allow into places where they could have direct impact to the riders on the track. This means WMRRA is responsabile for watching out for the spectators and photog's they allow across the track. This is why you have to sign a waiver to be a photog at a wmrra event and you get your purple jersey.

i don't know why people are debating this with me. i really don't care and i totally see the track org's point of view, but i can (and am) just as easily playing devil's advocate.

what i really mean to say up there is it shouldn't be the corner workers' primary directive to play crowd control for a bunch of assinine spectators and wannabe photogs. granted yes it falls under the umbrella of maintaining overall track safety, but i would prefer to know that most of their attention was directed towards those actually racing. i think most would agree here. but as i've said, some people will f it up for everyone else and unfortunately that has been nesba's sad reality. other track orgs (expanding this out more broadly to 2 and 4 wheels, not just at PIR) do allow this, and i think that's great. but that's just how the cookie crumbles.

and with that i am throwing in the towel.

back on topic: the fairings are treating me well, chris

albeit boring and marshmallow-esque for now!

erickb · 06-02-2008, 08:06 AM

ban all photogs from anywhere on the track or make the photogs pay a fee to enter on the track. That will get rid of the asshats and would allow me to get out there and take some pics

moto_scott · 06-02-2008, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by theJrod

Saw Scott out there on the Hyper - looks sick! Gawd I want one soo bad.

I meant to go out on the DRZ and play around w/ you some more, but I got pretty busy.

Was that you who had me follow you around and watch you back it in 3 and the bus stop? ... made me jealous of the mad skills.

theJrod · 06-02-2008, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by moto_scott

Was that you who had me follow you around and watch you back it in 3 and the bus stop? ... made me jealous of the mad skills.

Werd. I wanted to play more, but the orange shirt means I have to be nice (sorta).

How did the Hyper feel out there? It's very likely going to be my next bike (just a matter of when).

moto_scott · 06-02-2008, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by theJrod

Werd. I wanted to play more, but the orange shirt means I have to be nice (sorta).

How did the Hyper feel out there? It's very likely going to be my next bike (just a matter of when).

You were playing very nice, showing me what I am supposed to do with mine, that's one part of why you guys are there for, to show people how to ride correctly

... I need to learn how to back it in though. Following you was f'n awesome though. I kept looking for "the guy" ... now you ... on the motard for the rest of the day.

The Hyper felt great. Probably feel even better when I feel more comfortable tossing it around like you did the DRZ ... if you get one, you will not regret it

Motophotog · 06-02-2008, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by moto_scott

You were playing very nice, showing me what I am supposed to do with mine, that's one part of why you guys are there for, to show people how to ride correctly

... I need to learn how to back it in though. Following you was f'n awesome though. I kept looking for "the guy" ... now you ... on the motard for the rest of the day.

The Hyper felt great. Probably feel even better when I feel more comfortable tossing it around like you did the DRZ ... if you get one, you will not regret it

your tires on the duc looked nice and gummy.... did you ride the R6 at all?

THE FLAMING LIPPS · 06-02-2008, 01:06 PM

Just to let everyone know. I lowsided in T9.:( Sprained my finger and the bike has some broken parts,but all in all a good day of riding. I need to figure out why my front seems to be giving out.I'm going to switch back to 2ct's and see if that helps.The power race gave no feedback before washing out.I have taken T9 much faster than when it gave out so I'm a little concerned.New spring set up?maybe?tires?body position?wrong line?Could be the tires are done, three trackdays of pretty hard riding.By the way I was doing 1;38's last session before the lowside.Looks like I have some saftey wiring to do.(For those of you that don't know,I was tracking the bike out anyway.)

theJrod · 06-02-2008, 01:21 PM

I don't know anything about your setup, but in general, tires are the last thing you should be looking at.

tophyr · 06-02-2008, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by theJrod

I don't know anything about your setup, but in general, tires are the last thing you should be looking at.

Well.. he is on Michelins...

Will · 06-02-2008, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by tophyr

Well.. he is on Michelins...

That's why I have 'Stones on the gixxer. Not that it has kept me out of the gravel...


06-01-2008, 05:50 PM	#106
Motophotog Moto2 Contender Joined: Jun 2006 From: Covington I Ride: 94 VFR750, RC51, 1976 RD400 cafe, 74 Suzuki GT250	Pics here.. http://www.pnwriders.com/pictures/74...-pictures.html __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-02-2008, 08:06 AM	#112
erickb Mr. PNW Riders 2007 Joined: Jun 2005 From: classified Blog Entries: 2 I Ride: I don't anymore but can still out ride you!	ban all photogs from anywhere on the track or make the photogs pay a fee to enter on the track. That will get rid of the asshats and would allow me to get out there and take some pics __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-02-2008, 01:06 PM	#117
THE FLAMING LIPPS Peg Dragger Joined: Apr 2008 From: Burien,WA I Ride: '04 CBR 1000rr '93 VFR750F 2 2006 CBR 600rr's yz250f SM	Just to let everyone know. I lowsided in T9.:( Sprained my finger and the bike has some broken parts,but all in all a good day of riding. I need to figure out why my front seems to be giving out.I'm going to switch back to 2ct's and see if that helps.The power race gave no feedback before washing out.I have taken T9 much faster than when it gave out so I'm a little concerned.New spring set up?maybe?tires?body position?wrong line?Could be the tires are done, three trackdays of pretty hard riding.By the way I was doing 1;38's last session before the lowside.Looks like I have some saftey wiring to do.(For those of you that don't know,I was tracking the bike out anyway.) __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


06-02-2008, 01:21 PM	#118
theJrod Racer Extraordinaire Joined: Feb 2006 From: Marysville, WA I Ride: w/ Optimum Performance Rider Training	I don't know anything about your setup, but in general, tires are the last thing you should be looking at. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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