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Old 09-16-2009, 08:59 AM   #41
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By Wenatchee World staff

Wednesday, September 16, 2009

WENATCHEE — Bank accounts have been created for the family of a man who died in a motorcycle accident over the weekend, and the man who was in the truck he hit.

Daniel Peterson, 23, of East Wenatchee, died early Saturday morning after police say he ran a stop sign on his Suzuki motorcycle and hit a Mazda pickup driven by David Bugg, also of East Wenatchee.

Donations can be made in person to accounts for Peterson's family and for Bugg's family at Gesa Credit Union, 1005 N. Wenatchee Ave. in Wenatchee, according to a Gesa spokeswoman.
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Old 09-16-2009, 09:41 AM   #42
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Not to beat a dead horse, but talking to someone who knows the guys in the truck it sounds like the guy on the bike didnt have his headlight on, he had disabled them.

If he would have hit a couple feet either way this whole thing could have ended differently. He could have lived and hopefully scared some sense into himself, or he could have killed both people in that truck.

I would never wish an accident on any person, motorcycling is dangerous enough. There is a lot of humanity on this board, no one wishes any of us a crash. Go look at my original posting

The one that almost got away...

no one wished any bad will against him, no I hope he crashes, nothing bad at all, people were joking about it.

Is it really surprising that this happened to him? If it wasnt a truck it could have been a deer, or a dog, person, gravel...

I agree with some of the other folks in here, if we sugar coat this thing, no one will learn from it. The only issue I have with this whole deal is he could have killed those 2 people in that truck, that is where my "humanity" ends.
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:02 AM   #43
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To be honest, I doubt the whole "Disabled his headlights" story. It would be a stupid thing to do, and I see no point in doing it. And if it was true, it would be in his original report, but in his report he didnt even seen the motorcycle coming so how does he know the headlights were "disabled"? He said he didn't even know it was a motorcyclist until he left his truck. So I call BS.

I feel for the truck driver and his son, especially the view they will have of motorcyclists and prolly mainly sportbike riders now. But I rarely trust the opinion of cagers when it comes to anything about motorcycles.

No one is talking about "Sugar coating it" You can say what he did was dumb, that he could have possibly killed the two motorists and on and on, and I would agree with you. But to sit there behind your computer and call the kid names? His body prolly isnt even in the ground yet and you guys are spreading dirt on his name? Like I said before, you talk about "Sorrow, and pity" for his family but dont care if they happen to read you guys calling their Son an idiot, dumb shit, fucking moron, an asshole, a dumbass, and more??? To all you people calling names, in my eyes your the pieces of shit, your hypocrites cuzz weather its speeding, or popping a wheelie, or evading, or running a stop sign we all break the law every once in a while and this could happen to any of us any one of those times. Ill be taking names and reminding myself extra not to go withing 50 miles of you assholes who point fingers first, and sully a dead kids memory before his parents have a chance to mourn.
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:25 PM   #44
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I only hope Daniels family is not reading this. You people have no respect and have obviously never had anyone (brother father mother sister) have an untimely death. You are terrible people and God will have a special place in hell for anyone who some how thinks Daniel deserved this. This is a terrible tragedy for all parties involved..
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:53 PM   #45
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You are terrible people and God will have a special place in hell for anyone who some how thinks Daniel deserved this.

You are absolutely right Hotboat, we should not be accountable for our actions or the decisions we make in this life. If only the physics that your God designed agreed with you.

Exhibit A, if you will: A Major League pitcher throws a soft fruit (lets say an orange) against a wall at 100 mph. What happens to the fruit?

Exhibit B: If a motorcyclist throws himself against a 2500-3000 pound piece of metal at 100 mph, he suffers the same fate as the orange did. The only difference is, the orange did not have a choice in the matter, and in no way could have prevented itself from being thrown against the wall.

As MrPeasle said much earlier, he should have taken it to the track instead of making a conscious decision to endanger his life and that of others. At the very least take it far, far from town.

If Daniel had been doing a reasonable amount of speed, had not run a stop sign, and had been hit by another vehicle, I would have the greatest sympathy for him. But no, that is not the case.

There is a fundamental lesson at work here. We all have a choice, we can mitigate our risk and enjoy our ride at the same time. Or, we can throw caution and common sense to the wind, and put ourselves into a situation where we or others will be injured or, in this case killed. He chose the latter. Not once, but repeatedly, as indicated by the earlier article about his prior arrest.
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:04 PM   #46
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Thats not what he's saying. He's saying people like you should hold your fucking tongue for a family in mourning. We all agree that what he did was stupid, what we dont all agree on is you assholes calling him names after he paid for his actions with his life, and then saying "Oh my heart goes out to his family" when only your bitter disrespectful remarks are whats going out to his family.
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:06 PM   #47
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I only hope Daniels family is not reading this. You people have no respect and have obviously never had anyone (brother father mother sister) have an untimely death. You are terrible people and God will have a special place in hell for anyone who some how thinks Daniel deserved this. This is a terrible tragedy for all parties involved..
untimely death? Seems like it was right on time by his watch.
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:32 PM   #48
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Thats not what he's saying. He's saying people like you should hold your fucking tongue for a family in mourning. We all agree that what he did was stupid, what we dont all agree on is you assholes calling him names after he paid for his actions with his life, and then saying "Oh my heart goes out to his family" when only your bitter disrespectful remarks are whats going out to his family.
Forget it Thaloc these people are so fucking disrespectful, only an idiot could respond to that post with more shit talking. Looks like we got a leader for the line straight to hell.
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:54 PM   #49
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Forget it Thaloc these people are so fucking disrespectful, only an idiot could respond to that post with more shit talking. Looks like we got a leader for the line straight to hell.
Grow up!
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Old 09-16-2009, 02:01 PM   #50
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Enoughs Enough
We have two groups of people here and since I started this thread I somewhat feel responsable for what is going on here.

This is a local thread in the Wenatchee area. His family could read this and a lot of people have been been calling this guy an idiot. This guy did a lot of stupid stuff, he did, everyone here knows it. If this was in the general area everyone could and would bash him for it. I would just like to ask everyone to tone it down a bit. At some point the lesson that could be learned from this gets washed away in comments that should not be said about the deceased.

Yes he did a lot of stupid stuff and he paid the price in the end. As dumb as it was, in the end it is still a shame that he died, he could have learned his lesson eventually and done some good in the world.

If you want to bash him, and there is a time and place for that, please dont do it on this thread, start your own.
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Old 09-16-2009, 02:12 PM   #51
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Pfffft.
Stupid is as stupid does.
This was just a little cleaning out of the gene pool.
The shallow end.
this kid had no respect for himself much less anyone else.
His actions have spoken louder than any here could.
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Old 09-16-2009, 02:13 PM   #52
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In all due respect.
Request a locked thread or let it roll.

Don't beg for people to be less opinionated than they usually are, especially here on PNWriders!

The entire PNWriders.com site is about discussion, not really a place for reflection, not a place to honor the dead and especially after something like this happened.

I know personally the pain associated with motorcycle incidents, I know the way PNW'ers jump on a situation like this, but it is either your fault for not having this locked or your fault for starting the thread, if you want to accept blame.

My thought is stop blaming your self, it isn't your fault one bit in my eyes.




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We have two groups of people here and since I started this thread I somewhat feel responsable for what is going on here.

This is a local thread in the Wenatchee area. His family could read this and a lot of people have been been calling this guy an idiot. This guy did a lot of stupid stuff, he did, everyone here knows it. If this was in the general area everyone could and would bash him for it. I would just like to ask everyone to tone it down a bit. At some point the lesson that could be learned from this gets washed away in comments that should not be said about the deceased.

Yes he did a lot of stupid stuff and he paid the price in the end. As dumb as it was, in the end it is still a shame that he died, he could have learned his lesson eventually and done some good in the world.

If you want to bash him, and there is a time and place for that, please dont do it on this thread, start your own.
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Old 09-16-2009, 02:25 PM   #53
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Lock this thread do to disrespectful assholes that I will see in my journeys of life. Don't blame me when I say hi to you.
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Old 09-16-2009, 02:29 PM   #54
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Lock this thread do to disrespectful assholes that I will see in my journeys of life. Don't blame me when I say hi to you.
Threats?????
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Old 09-16-2009, 02:37 PM   #55
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Old 09-16-2009, 02:51 PM   #56
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Please lock this thread, anything good that could be learned from this is far gone.
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Old 09-16-2009, 02:54 PM   #57
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Please lock this thread, anything good that could be learned from this is far gone.
send a PM to the MODS!
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Old 09-16-2009, 06:24 PM   #58
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I agree with Thaloc, but I also agree with a few of you. I feel bad that Danny had to pay the ultimate price...death. He did endanger lives while riding. Although, it has never been said by police or otherwise, that he was traveling 100+mph... it has been all hear say. I feel bad for the Bugg family as this is an innocent father/son coming home without expecting to be hit by a motorcyclist. What Danny did is plain wrong, but to have hatred towards him because of this? But I do get what you are saying because if I was to put my family in that car and it was involved in a preventable accident, I would be just as angry. At this moment, there is nothing I can do to bring Danny back, but I feel for his family. The Peterson's are great people. I know his father very well, and this is an experience I don't wish on anyone.
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Old 09-16-2009, 07:06 PM   #59
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I agree and disagree with whats been posted so far, however, in my mind, I equate this to a drunk driving incident, I know it's not, but what would everyone be saying if dude was driving a car and been drunk? Or even sober what ever? Because he was riding a bike many here sympithize with danny because he's a rider. If he wasn't no one here would care. There are plenty of places to ride bike to their limits, or yours, doing it through the middle of town, is not, and IS stupid. It sucks dude died, but when you play roulet, eventually your going to lose. This board and this forum isn't the place though to try to edjucate the masses though. You can't post anything on here without being flamed one way or another. Thicken up the skin or just deal.
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Old 09-17-2009, 11:51 AM   #60
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Lock this thread do to disrespectful assholes that I will see in my journeys of life. Don't blame me when I say hi to you.
Nice, sunshine - now everyone thinks ur a PSYCHO.

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I only hope Daniels family is not reading this. You people have no respect and have obviously never had anyone (brother father mother sister) have an untimely death. You are terrible people and God will have a special place in hell for anyone who some how thinks Daniel deserved this. This is a terrible tragedy for all parties involved..
Untimely - u mean his age? Otherwise it seems predictable at best.

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I feel for the truck driver and his son, especially the view they will have of motorcyclists and prolly mainly sportbike riders now. But I rarely trust the opinion of cagers when it comes to anything about motorcycles.
At least U claim to have feelings for the innocents in this.

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Ill be taking names and reminding myself extra not to go withing 50 miles of you assholes who point fingers first, and sully a dead kids memory before his parents have a chance to mourn.
Please - follow up on this promise - I have a Wing and a Sabre and I'm often in Wenatchee.
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:13 AM   #61
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I'm not sure of the intention of this thread, but there is no way to change the outcome or make it a happy ending. A bad decision is a bad decision. It is just a matter of how and when it will catch up with you. Does three bad decisions make you and asshole or an asshat? Who was this rider's mentor? Is there really anything to learn from this whole incident? What good can come as a result of discussing it? Is it worth dwelling on or should we focus our attention on his more honorable moments? If it were you, is this how you would like it to go down? Is this how you would like to be remembered? I'd be willing to bet there was more to him than a few bad decisions. Maybe we should discuss those as well (for those that knew him well enough)? If you didn't, why are you commenting at all?

I believe part of the grieving process after losing someone is to mediate the tragedy and recall positive thoughts and remind ourselves of their good qualities. Bashing on the dead does not help with this process for the people driving the truck or the family of the rider. So to say you feel bad for his family and then post what an idiot you thought he was seems very contradictory to me, but I'm in no place to tell others what to do as I don't want them to tell me what to do either.

I further believe that this idea lately to have to share all of your feelings and lay them out on the table to be discussed is bologna. Sometimes there is a time and place to discuss these things, but for me, a public forum does not seem to be the right place, so I will not be passing judement on the rider. Again, that is just my way... I guess I'm learning that I am a private person, and that I don't have to make my thoughts known to everyone all the time. I don't understand why someone that didn't know him would post in this thread stating he was an idiot. What is your motivation?

This whole thing makes me regret I didn't seek him out and try to help him make better riding decisions. Now none of us will get that chance. Do we need to remind ourselves of the biker's code/ethics? I guess with all the new "bikers" on the road today, it is just not the same as it used to be. We will turn on each other without hesitation (note to self).

Ok, back to the bashing...
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:18 AM   #62
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Very well said Darren.
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Old 09-20-2009, 12:02 PM   #63
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Old 09-20-2009, 12:29 PM   #64
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Smartest thing said on this thread thanks Darrin. I'm sure Daniel was a great son and a great person in general.
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Old 10-25-2009, 12:59 AM   #65
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I live here in Wenatche and have for over 35 years. No doubt that Daniel was a great person and the Peterson family is now hurting more than ever, not to mention the upset lives of the Bugg family. I will not judge what Daniel did nor his actions, this is a sad thing all the way around for so many people here in the valley it is indescribable. I am saddened by the outcome of this very unfortunate incident.

My only question for those who have posted on this very thread about blazing around at WAY OVER the posted speed limits........and you know who you are.

DID YOU/WE LEARN ANYTHING FROM THIS??

Bill, please tell Daniels dad that not all of us think he was (any of the above rediculous names) and that some riders here are and have been very affected by this. A positive and caring thought goes a long way in today's world, I for one wish there had been a different outcome to this.

R.I.P. Daniel Peterson
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Old 10-25-2009, 10:06 AM   #66
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RIP Rider... I am not going to bash on anyone but since the kid didn't learn from his previous encounters and now he is gone has anyone learned anything from his death? God, I hope so...
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Old 10-25-2009, 10:16 AM   #67
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as for the rest of you who are dissin on him.... if you have never done anything that could have ended in a similar manner, then you can post up. If you have, then shut up.

at this point, nobody should post because we have all done things that (most of the time) we get away with, through the grace of God, dumb luck, or whatever. Once in a while someone roles craps... and its sad. If your one to say he deserved it.... (comment removed), and your wrong
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Old 10-25-2009, 10:25 AM   #68
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We as riders all make our own decisions for the actions we take. I am sorry that he choose poorly and even more sorry that his poor decision is forever going to live with the driver of the truck.
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