toll i90 tunnels?

mcote · 05-20-2012, 07:08 PM

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/traf...-bridge/nN9Ct/

i MAY actually tuck my plate if this goes into effect........

next there gonna try to toll 522......

Khustla · 05-20-2012, 07:15 PM

dizzle · 05-20-2012, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by mcote

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/traf...-bridge/nN9Ct/

i MAY actually tuck my plate if this goes into effect........

next they're gonna try to toll 405......

Fixt4u

Ill install a folding mechanism to tuck the plate as I'm crossing.

VFRtard · 05-20-2012, 07:39 PM

It will not be long till every bridge in this state has a toll.

Gotama · 05-20-2012, 07:41 PM

MVET isn't looking so bad now huh

Furious Coder · 05-20-2012, 08:03 PM

I bet both Medina and Mercer Island will lobby against this. Mercer gets over scott-free right now, to wherever they need to be, and just to leave their island 50% of the time would mean an effective tax on all residents. Medina, on the other hand, currently has a nice 1% expressway that runs at full speed, all the time.

Oh well.

fedj18 · 05-20-2012, 08:23 PM

http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Tolling/EastsideCorridor/

CodeBlue · 05-20-2012, 09:12 PM

Hmm. Guess it's time to start looking at moving away from Seattle. If it goes into effect it's basically the same thing as taking a sizeable pay cut depending on toll rates and frequency of use.

If it was a reasonable toll it'd be fine, but I had to pay more than 7 bucks to cross 520 twice yesterday. That's a meal. Montana keeps looking nicer and nicer.

mcote · 05-20-2012, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by CodeBlue

Hmm. Guess it's time to start looking at moving away from Seattle. If it goes into effect it's basically the same thing as taking a sizeable pay cut depending on toll rates and frequency of use.

If it was a reasonable toll it'd be fine, but I had to pay more than 7 bucks to cross 520 twice yesterday. That's a meal. Montana keeps looking nicer and nicer.

or just eastern washington......

YamahaRider · 05-20-2012, 09:27 PM

CodeBlue · 05-20-2012, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by mcote

or just eastern washington......

If I'm going that far I might as well keep going until the speed limit hits 75 (and I'm not in Idaho).

Bellevuef4i · 05-20-2012, 09:56 PM

WTF
SO we already pay an extra gas tax that's supposed to be specifically for this kind of shit, and a toll for 520. Now they realize most people are saying fuck that and taking i90, so they decide NO, Fuck them we will make it impossible for them not to pay....That's extortion. "but they need the money to fix the bridge!" pfff. They don't have enough money for necessary shit because they spend WASTEFULLY. For example: those retarded screens over the freeway that tell me how fast I can go when the dude in front of me tells me that.... Millions of $. On top of everything they charge motorcycles the same amount as a damn Hummer (most likely with studded tires for no damn reason.) If they do this shit lets have a plate flipper install meet.

Mxyzptlk · 05-20-2012, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by Bellevuef4i

WTF
SO we already pay an extra gas tax that's supposed to be specifically for this kind of shit, and a toll for 520. Now they realize most people are saying fuck that and taking i90, so they decide NO, Fuck them we will make it impossible for them not to pay....That's extortion. "but they need the money to fix the bridge!" pfff. They don't have enough money for necessary shit because they spend WASTEFULLY. For example: those retarded screens over the freeway that tell me how fast I can go when the dude in front of me tells me that.... Millions of $. On top of everything they charge motorcycles the same amount as a damn Hummer (most likely with studded tires for no damn reason.) If they do this shit lets have a plate flipper install meet.

QFT

Those signs over the freeway around my area says TEST most of the time.

If they toll I90, gives me an even bigger reason against going to Seattle. I'll just blacklist it permanently.

Also gives me a reason to install a tucker.

nemisis714 · 05-20-2012, 10:22 PM

Does anybody here know if they receive federal funds to help maintain I90? If they do, wouldn't the information here (http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ipd/fact_she...g_programs.htm) be correct in saying the state can't toll I90 to pay for 520?

mcote · 05-20-2012, 10:26 PM

the thing that puzzles me the most about this is how it can effect travelers. all people dont live in seattle, but may have to fly out of seattle airport/ferries..... mariners games/sounders games ect. its an extra ~$15, while not alot, still can make a difference to low income families if they are treating themselves to something.

i understand that 520 is a convenience and 405 is kind of one, but 90 is the MAIN way into seattle from the east side of the state.

anyways, yeah, plate tucks all around, maybe we can even help some cagers figure something out.

nemisis714 · 05-20-2012, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by mcote

the thing that puzzles me the most about this is how it can effect travelers. all people dont live in seattle, but may have to fly out of seattle airport/ferries..... mariners games/sounders games ect. its an extra ~$15, while not alot, still can make a difference to low income families if they are treating themselves to something.

i understand that 520 is a convenience and 405 is kind of one, but 90 is the MAIN way into seattle from the east side of the state.

anyways, yeah, plate tucks all around, maybe we can even help some cagers figure something out.

I really wouldn't say 405 is a convenience at all, it is the ONLY way around the Seattle clusterfuck if you are going north-south or south-north. It would save you an hour of traffic depending on the day/time you go through. How about semi's that travel to the border or down south, imagine having all the trucks that travel 405 everyday heading through Seattle during all times of the day... would not be a pretty sight.

YamahaRider · 05-20-2012, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by nemisis714

Does anybody here know if they receive federal funds to help maintain I90? If they do, wouldn't the information here (http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ipd/fact_she...g_programs.htm) be correct in saying the state can't toll I90 to pay for 520?

They receive federal funds but if you read the article and then you read your link there are several exceptions and because every politician is a lawyer they will find a way to fit it in those exceptions.

Much of I90 east of Madison, WI is tolled already.

nemisis714 · 05-20-2012, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by YamahaRider

They receive federal funds but if you read the article and then you read your link there are several exceptions and because every politician is a lawyer they will find a way to fit it in those exceptions.

Much of I90 east of Madison, WI is tolled already.

Shit, I knew that what I posted had to have some sort of loop holes in it

Thanks for pointing that out for me

YamahaRider · 05-20-2012, 10:56 PM

No doubt will be installing a plate flipper if this happens.

After this 405 will be next.

YamahaRider · 05-20-2012, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by nemisis714

Shit, I knew that what I posted had to have some sort of loop holes in it

Thanks for pointing that out for me

Yeah the first exception your article allows for tolling for the construction of new toll highways (not federal freeways) and the reconstruction of already free highways when intended to then convert to a tollway. Since 520 is not tolled already, they will toll I90 to pay for a new 520 bridge then toll 520. All still within the guidelines of that federal act.


05-20-2012, 07:08 PM	#1
mcote Licensed Joined: Mar 2011 From: between i5 & 405 I Ride: when i feel like it	toll i90 tunnels? http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/traf...-bridge/nN9Ct/ i MAY actually tuck my plate if this goes into effect........ next there gonna try to toll 522...... __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


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05-20-2012, 07:39 PM	#4
VFRtard Pit Crew Joined: Feb 2008 From: Bremerton I Ride: 1400cc of Sentinel fury	It will not be long till every bridge in this state has a toll. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-20-2012, 07:41 PM	#5
Gotama Novice Racer Joined: Oct 2008 From: Camp kwitcherbitchen Blog Entries: 3 I Ride: for me	MVET isn't looking so bad now huh __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-20-2012, 08:03 PM	#6
Furious Coder Peg Dragger Joined: Apr 2010 From: Seattle, WA I Ride: 2012 Moto Guzzi V7 Racer, 2009 Triumph Daytona 675	I bet both Medina and Mercer Island will lobby against this. Mercer gets over scott-free right now, to wherever they need to be, and just to leave their island 50% of the time would mean an effective tax on all residents. Medina, on the other hand, currently has a nice 1% expressway that runs at full speed, all the time. Oh well. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-20-2012, 08:23 PM	#7
fedj18 Pit Crew Joined: Oct 2009 From: Lynnwood, Wa I Ride: 07 CBR 600RR	http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Tolling/EastsideCorridor/ __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-20-2012, 09:12 PM	#8
CodeBlue Shredder Joined: Jun 2007 From: Burien, WA Blog Entries: 1 I Ride: 2008 KTM 990 Adventure	Hmm. Guess it's time to start looking at moving away from Seattle. If it goes into effect it's basically the same thing as taking a sizeable pay cut depending on toll rates and frequency of use. If it was a reasonable toll it'd be fine, but I had to pay more than 7 bucks to cross 520 twice yesterday. That's a meal. Montana keeps looking nicer and nicer. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-20-2012, 09:27 PM	#10
YamahaRider Licensed Joined: Aug 2010 From: Federal Way, WA I Ride: 08 Raven R1	Sigh __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-20-2012, 09:56 PM	#12
Bellevuef4i Endorsed Joined: Apr 2012 From: Renton, Wa I Ride: 2001 Cbr F4i	WTF SO we already pay an extra gas tax that's supposed to be specifically for this kind of shit, and a toll for 520. Now they realize most people are saying fuck that and taking i90, so they decide NO, Fuck them we will make it impossible for them not to pay....That's extortion. "but they need the money to fix the bridge!" pfff. They don't have enough money for necessary shit because they spend WASTEFULLY. For example: those retarded screens over the freeway that tell me how fast I can go when the dude in front of me tells me that.... Millions of $. On top of everything they charge motorcycles the same amount as a damn Hummer (most likely with studded tires for no damn reason.) If they do this shit lets have a plate flipper install meet. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-20-2012, 10:22 PM	#14
nemisis714 Shredder Joined: Jul 2010 From: Kent, WA I Ride: 2011 Kawi Versys and a 1999 Yamaha WR400F	Does anybody here know if they receive federal funds to help maintain I90? If they do, wouldn't the information here (http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ipd/fact_she...g_programs.htm) be correct in saying the state can't toll I90 to pay for 520? __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-20-2012, 10:26 PM	#15
mcote Licensed Joined: Mar 2011 From: between i5 & 405 I Ride: when i feel like it	the thing that puzzles me the most about this is how it can effect travelers. all people dont live in seattle, but may have to fly out of seattle airport/ferries..... mariners games/sounders games ect. its an extra ~$15, while not alot, still can make a difference to low income families if they are treating themselves to something. i understand that 520 is a convenience and 405 is kind of one, but 90 is the MAIN way into seattle from the east side of the state. anyways, yeah, plate tucks all around, maybe we can even help some cagers figure something out. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


05-20-2012, 10:56 PM	#19
YamahaRider Licensed Joined: Aug 2010 From: Federal Way, WA I Ride: 08 Raven R1	No doubt will be installing a plate flipper if this happens. After this 405 will be next. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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