Forced into opposite lane. - Page 2

soultrain · 07-25-2012, 10:13 AM

By the looks of that fart can it was a young punk kid..

Jmirage · 07-25-2012, 10:43 AM

When he came rolling up, I thought he was getting behind me, there was no room to go around the vehicle in front of me as it was just one lane each direction in a corner. He continued to be an extremely aggressive driver the rest of the route we were together on, it was intentional. I don't have any interest in putting myself at more risk by kicking his car, but would like to have the conversation. Sometimes it does some good. I am guessing he lives near my neighborhood because of the route he took, and I will probably see him again. Maybe I need to have the gopro going ala Khustla.

djacobsen5116 · 07-25-2012, 12:56 PM

Slowing down or speeding up, my speed permitting, have always worked for me. It does seem like I have been doing a lot more of that recently though.

Baldrick · 07-25-2012, 01:09 PM

Having seriously loud horns helps get their attention, too. I've had people mistake my old Guzzi for an 18-wheeler, when I let them have a blast.

That being said, there will always be those drivers who feel it's O.K. to simply take your lane, no matter what the situation may be otherwise...

Molo · 07-25-2012, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Baldrick

Having seriously loud horns helps get their attention, too. I've had people mistake my old Guzzi for an 18-wheeler, when I let them have a blast.

That being said, there will always be those drivers who feel it's O.K. to simply take your lane, no matter what the situation may be otherwise...

I always have a helluva time finding my horn in these sorts of scenarios. My first reaction is to GTFO, and by the time I remember I have a horn the situation is already over.

Texasl · 07-25-2012, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Baldrick

Having seriously loud horns helps get their attention, too. I've had people mistake my old Guzzi for an 18-wheeler, when I let them have a blast.

That being said, there will always be those drivers who feel it's O.K. to simply take your lane, no matter what the situation may be otherwise...

How long have you had that Goose, and are you (or were you) living on the Kidnap county side of the water?

Grankor · 07-25-2012, 03:18 PM

I live & ride in redmond. I can tell you from (unfortunately) lots of experience that this happens a lot in metro areas. It's easy to get mad and scream, chase people down, etc..etc..

The thing we have to understand as riders, is that there are 2 types of people who drive cars:

1- They are trying to kill us.

2- They are accidentally trying to kill us.

Take the steps you need make proper passes & lane changes, but ALWAYS give yourself a way out. If someone is being aggressive, get away from them. Either by waiting for them to pass, or by taking a different route. If you know this person, or if you see them on a daily basis, try a constructive conversation ("Hey, you almost got me, but I got away this time"). Or report them to the police EVERY time they are driving like an asshole...they will eventually get tired of you calling and pay the guy a visit.

That said, ride safe. A moment of anger is not worth you safety & life.

rivensoul · 07-26-2012, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Grankor

The thing we have to understand as riders, is that there are 2 types of people who drive cars:

1- They are trying to kill us.

2- They are accidentally trying to kill us.

...

taznhell · 07-26-2012, 11:45 AM

Ok let's see been in this situation...

When I was 16 (30 years ago) I was riding on Penn Street in Bend and had a merging driver force over in my lane. In my stupid youth I raised foot and kicked his side mirror off and then sped away.

RESULT: He reported my plate, police believed him over me, I got ticket and paid for his damages. Oh yeah also broke bone in my right foot when I kicked mirror.

Lesson Learned: I now let the asshats merge in front of me and when I am able if needed I will then pass them legally as said if needed. I know that a large percentage of drivers do not see cyclists as said 30 years on the bike riding convinced me of that fact. So I do the only thing I can see them and expect them to do the unexpected therefore staying safe.

D675Freak · 07-26-2012, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by courier11sec

No, and I don't recommend trying it when I am in my truck.
Sympathetic rider or not, do that I twitch the wheel your way a second and down goes Frazier. The end.
If the driver doesn't decide to fuck you up, you gain nothing.
If the driver does decide to fuck you up, you lose.

Well it will be fun to get them thrown in jail from my GoPro footage showing them trying to kill me with a deadly weapon.

I've never kicked a car, nor did I say it was a good idea. Do what you gotta do. If someone wants to try some shit, get it on video. Then you win, and can sue them for whatever you'd like. Ideally, everything they're worth if they try and run over a biker. Even if I'm dead, I know my family would avenge me and I hope that everyone else who rides can say the same.

Moral of the story is....
ALWAYS HAVE EVIDENCE

Andy Capp · 07-26-2012, 08:44 PM

Moral of the story is always having escape routes and, where possible, control uncertain events. In this case you could have slowed early and "let" them in front. Problem solved.

A camera won't do you much good when you are brown bread.

Fast Eddie 919 · 07-26-2012, 09:23 PM

Welcome to riding, people don't see you, they see you, atake your right of wAy anyway. It pisses you off, don't give them free rent in your head, let it go.

courier11sec · 07-27-2012, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by D675Freak

Well it will be fun to get them thrown in jail from my GoPro footage showing them trying to kill me with a deadly weapon.

I've never kicked a car, nor did I say it was a good idea. Do what you gotta do. If someone wants to try some shit, get it on video. Then you win, and can sue them for whatever you'd like. Ideally, everything they're worth if they try and run over a biker. Even if I'm dead, I know my family would avenge me and I hope that everyone else who rides can say the same.

Moral of the story is....
ALWAYS HAVE EVIDENCE

I'm sure your family would rather not lose you than prove that you had the right of way on the day you got creamed.
Don't be an idiot please. It's better when you're here than gone I believe.

D675Freak · 07-27-2012, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by courier11sec

I'm sure your family would rather not lose you than prove that you had the right of way on the day you got creamed.
Don't be an idiot please. It's better when you're here than gone I believe.

My family would do more than prove I had the right of way if something bad happened to me and they knew who did it. I'm not saying anything more. I agree with what you said, and I am in no way refuting anything you said with this post.

Locutus · 07-29-2012, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by Jmirage

So, riding from Bothell Everett highway along 208th to 196th and I5, this guy really needed to be in my lane. He was in a merging lane that merged into mine, then pulled up next to me and pushed his way over. I was forced into the other lane until I got behind him. He continued down i5 from 196th. Luckily I snapped a pic. If anyone comes across his car parked somewhere, I'd like the opportunity to have a discussion with him about his aggressive driving.

No matter what advise you get. This shit still sucks. Misfucks, like the dude that did this, are the reason so much research has gone into birth control. I see this shit every day. Yes there are maneuvers, procedures you can do. But in the end keep your wits about you and try not to get pissed (I know that ain't easy). When you get pissed, the other side scores.

Good luck and stay safe.

MMACK · 07-30-2012, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by Bluuu

If I spent time reporting every idiot that took my lane I'd never get anything else done.

Couple weeks ago I had two drivers decide they needed my lane more than I did... within about 1 minute of eachother.

Kicking their doors didn't seem like a good option. In fact it never crossed my mind. I had to content myself with twisting the throttle and flipping them off.

Throttle theropy, cut me off, I pass you flippin the bird, try to enter my lane, I pass you flipping the bird, drive like an ass hat, you get the point!


07-25-2012, 10:13 AM	#21
soultrain Endorsed Joined: Jun 2009 From: Tacoma, Wa I Ride: CBR 1000RR	By the looks of that fart can it was a young punk kid.. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-25-2012, 10:43 AM	#22
Jmirage Endorsed Joined: Nov 2011 From: Bothell, WA I Ride: in to signs	When he came rolling up, I thought he was getting behind me, there was no room to go around the vehicle in front of me as it was just one lane each direction in a corner. He continued to be an extremely aggressive driver the rest of the route we were together on, it was intentional. I don't have any interest in putting myself at more risk by kicking his car, but would like to have the conversation. Sometimes it does some good. I am guessing he lives near my neighborhood because of the route he took, and I will probably see him again. Maybe I need to have the gopro going ala Khustla. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-25-2012, 12:56 PM	#23
djacobsen5116 Endorsed Joined: Jul 2010 From: Mercer Island, WA I Ride: 2009 Yamaha FJR1300	Slowing down or speeding up, my speed permitting, have always worked for me. It does seem like I have been doing a lot more of that recently though. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-25-2012, 01:09 PM	#24
Baldrick Endorsed Joined: May 2009 From: Washington	Having seriously loud horns helps get their attention, too. I've had people mistake my old Guzzi for an 18-wheeler, when I let them have a blast. That being said, there will always be those drivers who feel it's O.K. to simply take your lane, no matter what the situation may be otherwise... __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-25-2012, 03:18 PM	#27
Grankor Endorsed Joined: Jun 2012 From: denial I Ride: All the way there and back	I live & ride in redmond. I can tell you from (unfortunately) lots of experience that this happens a lot in metro areas. It's easy to get mad and scream, chase people down, etc..etc.. The thing we have to understand as riders, is that there are 2 types of people who drive cars: 1- They are trying to kill us. 2- They are accidentally trying to kill us. Take the steps you need make proper passes & lane changes, but ALWAYS give yourself a way out. If someone is being aggressive, get away from them. Either by waiting for them to pass, or by taking a different route. If you know this person, or if you see them on a daily basis, try a constructive conversation ("Hey, you almost got me, but I got away this time"). Or report them to the police EVERY time they are driving like an asshole...they will eventually get tired of you calling and pay the guy a visit. That said, ride safe. A moment of anger is not worth you safety & life. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-26-2012, 11:45 AM	#29
taznhell Shredder Joined: Jul 2008 From: Cornelius, Oregon I Ride: Everyday	Ok let's see been in this situation... When I was 16 (30 years ago) I was riding on Penn Street in Bend and had a merging driver force over in my lane. In my stupid youth I raised foot and kicked his side mirror off and then sped away. RESULT: He reported my plate, police believed him over me, I got ticket and paid for his damages. Oh yeah also broke bone in my right foot when I kicked mirror. Lesson Learned: I now let the asshats merge in front of me and when I am able if needed I will then pass them legally as said if needed. I know that a large percentage of drivers do not see cyclists as said 30 years on the bike riding convinced me of that fact. So I do the only thing I can see them and expect them to do the unexpected therefore staying safe. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-26-2012, 08:44 PM	#31
Andy Capp Superbiker Joined: Oct 2010 From: Everett, WA I Ride: 05 GSX-R750, 08 675, 72 XL250	Moral of the story is always having escape routes and, where possible, control uncertain events. In this case you could have slowed early and "let" them in front. Problem solved. A camera won't do you much good when you are brown bread. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


07-26-2012, 09:23 PM	#32
Fast Eddie 919 Superbiker Joined: Jan 2009 From: Canada Blog Entries: 1 I Ride: GXSR 600	Welcome to riding, people don't see you, they see you, atake your right of wAy anyway. It pisses you off, don't give them free rent in your head, let it go. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter

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