heli gunship escorting ferry last nite - Page 4

LivnLife4Fun · 09-13-2012, 04:04 PM

Really appreciate that this thread has become quite informative!!! Sure thought those were .50s on the inflatables & heli...

What made me uncomfortable about it, even if it was a one time event, it is that heli gunships are weapons of WAR and there we have one circling around the ferry in quaint old eagle harbor. :shrug:

Boatdriver · 09-13-2012, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by hayrider

The air and water activity noted involved multiple departments that insure safety of this region and specifically was preparing for a dirty bomb scenario that would cause havoc and potentially cost lives and certainly untold millions (?billions) of dollars. For those who may remember, there was an event about eleven years ago wherein some fundamentalist terrorists attacked US soil on the eastern seaboard of our country. They used boxcutters to hijack airplanes then and today plan on using dirty bombs that are called dirty because they will/do contain biological and/or fissionable/nuclear materials. Well, unless you live under a rock, you know that the idiotic thinking that spurred that attack is still functioning today and just waiting for the opportunity. Here in the northwest corner of our country we have many truly important targets that these creeps want to damage. Think Boeing, Microsoft, multiple strategic military sites, agricultural and healthcare agencies...
The activity acknowledges that we are certainly vulnerable to incredible damage that would change our lives in a way that no one I know wants and the folks who were seen training want to be good citizens and first responders to mitigate the bad consequences of another attack. If I were to think that this is not a very real threat, I would maybe join those increasing numbers of folks that believe that September 11 did not really occur, man did not land on the moon and that the world is really flat.
Fuck the creeps that seek to do us harm; be vigilant and prepared and support each individuals right to protect themselves and our nation to do likewise. I am thankful that all the heli, boat, personnel who were involved in the observed training were doing it.

Repp'd

Boatdriver · 09-13-2012, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by coastiepete

Ok. Dammit. we need to test this problem. somebody find a 3/4" piece of plate steel. and a .50 BMG. now i want to know if it will go through it, lol.

I'll get back to you and send you a pic.

Mitch F · 09-13-2012, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by Gotama

oh that's comforting
little do you know how thin the hulls are

Little do YOU know how big the bilge pumps are

KTM690smc · 09-13-2012, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by coastiepete

Ok. Dammit. we need to test this problem. somebody find a 3/4" piece of plate steel. and a .50 BMG. now i want to know if it will go through it, lol.

Almost makes it through this 1"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8ZxiWjt1ZM

Stv360 · 09-13-2012, 06:50 PM

They need to put a couple of those gun ships patrolling the roads. They could take out anyone attempting to dump, distribute, unload or place "illegal gravel". This money could be put to good use if they need to fly thier little gun ships.

Gotama · 09-13-2012, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Mitch F

Little do YOU know how big the bilge pumps are

why ya gotta ruin my fun , of course I know

Gotama · 09-13-2012, 08:04 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhysoS2DC8M

coastiepete · 09-13-2012, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by LivnLife4Fun

Really appreciate that this thread has become quite informative!!! Sure thought those were .50s on the inflatables & heli...

What made me uncomfortable about it, even if it was a one time event, it is that heli gunships are weapons of WAR and there we have one circling around the ferry in quaint old eagle harbor. :shrug:

more information.......

Those boats are NOT inflatable. it's a closed cell foam with a UV stable polyurethane covering

But i do love how a CG helo is considered a weapon of war, lol. good one.

Tac · 09-14-2012, 08:07 AM

Exceptional read. Very bouncy.

woodpecker · 09-14-2012, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by coastiepete

But i do love how a CG helo is considered a weapon of war, lol. good one.

LOL...CG -- weapons of war -- bwahahaha

I wonder if during all the stateside rescues these perform, if the person being rescued considers them a weapon of war?

Hell, technically a handgun, hunting rifle, etc is a weapon of war but I don't see anyone getting all butt hurt or nervous having those around ALL THE TIME.

Bluuu · 09-14-2012, 10:02 AM

I think people like the CG and marine traffic do a heck of a good job. I've had one encounter with the CG and they were friendly, helpful, and professional. I don't mind having them around. I'm not sure if the feeling is mutual. I imagine they shake their heads at some of the idiocy we little pleasure crafters manage to pull off.

I wish I were younger and could join the coast guard. I'm totally jealous of those guy's job.

1rocket69 · 09-14-2012, 10:40 AM

You can mount .50 on Heli, Thats all we had on our when I was in the Marines.

The .50 caliber round is optimized for penetration at long ranges (about 875 yards, or 800 meters). For hard targets, .50 caliber penetration is affected by obliquity and range.

The .50 caliber round can penetrate all of the commonly found urban barriers except a sand-filled 55-gallon drum.

Continued and concentrated machine gun fire can breach most typical urban walls. Such fire cannot breach thick reinforced concrete structures or dense natural stone walls. Internal walls, partitions, plaster, floors, ceilings, common office furniture, home appliances, and bedding can be easily penetrated by .50 caliber rounds.

Number of rounds needed to penetrate a reinforced concrete wall at 25° obliquity. Wall Thickness 109 yd (100 m) Range 219 yd (200 m) Range
2 ft (0.6 m) 300 rounds 1,200 rounds
3 ft (0.9 m) 450 rounds 1,800 rounds
4 ft (1.2 m) 600 rounds 2,400 rounds

Penetration capabilities of a single .50 caliber M2 AP round fired from a 45-inch barrel. Range Armor Plate (homogeneous) Armor Plate (face-hardened) Sand Clay
219 yd (200 m) 1.0 in (25.4 mm) 0.9 in (22.9 mm) 14 in (355.6 mm) 28 in (711.2 mm)
656 yd (600 m) 0.7 in (17.8 mm) 0.5 in (12.7 mm) 12 in (304.8 mm) 27 in (685.8 mm)
1,640 yd (1,500 m) 0.3 in (7.6 mm) 0.2 in (5.1 mm) 6 in (152.4 mm) 21 in (533.4 mm)

Penetration capabilities of a single .50 caliber M2 Ball round fired from a 45-inch barrel. Range Sand Clay Concrete
219 yd (200 m) 14 in (355.6 mm) 28 in (711.2 mm) 2 in (50.8 mm)
656 yd (600 m) 12 in (304.8 mm) 26 in (660.4 mm) 1 in (25.4 mm)
1,640 yd (1,500 m) 6 in (152.4 mm) 21 in (533.4 mm) 1 in (25.4 mm)

PDXGSXR · 09-14-2012, 10:47 AM

Coast guard cutters mount freaking 5" deck guns on the forecastle. Remember it's coast GUARD, they can't guard much without some things that go bang.

What do you think they use to shoot up drug runners speed boats with? BB guns?

Slightly more effective than a .50 caliber pea shooter.

coastiepete · 09-14-2012, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by PDXGSXR

Coast guard cutters mount freaking 5" deck guns on the forecastle. Remember it's coast GUARD, they can't guard much without some things that go bang.

What do you think they use to shoot up drug runners speed boats with? BB guns?

Ahhhhh, the 270' medium endurance cutter.............also known as a 270' vomit comet. rumor has it that the budget for them ran out, and they just shortened the bow by 30', and it made it ride awful.........

i think that's the USCGC Tahoma.

Worldtraveller · 09-14-2012, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by coastiepete

Same weapons

the small boats never had .50 cals. they had M60's for a long time. now they have M240's. the bigger boats still have 50's though.

One or two of these escorted the cruise ship we were on in every port (Alaska and Seattle)..what are those guns?

coastiepete · 09-14-2012, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Worldtraveller

One or two of these escorted the cruise ship we were on in every port (Alaska and Seattle)..what are those guns?

probably M240's. those boats are built by SAFE boats in WA. near bremerton. i think we have like 660 of them now? but don't quote me.


09-13-2012, 04:04 PM	#61
LivnLife4Fun Licensed Joined: Feb 2010 From: Poulsbo, WA I Ride: that's right, I #^($* RIDE!!!	Really appreciate that this thread has become quite informative!!! Sure thought those were .50s on the inflatables & heli... What made me uncomfortable about it, even if it was a one time event, it is that heli gunships are weapons of WAR and there we have one circling around the ferry in quaint old eagle harbor. :shrug: __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-13-2012, 06:50 PM	#66
Stv360 Permit Joined: Aug 2012 From: VANCOUVER I Ride: Yamaha R1	They need to put a couple of those gun ships patrolling the roads. They could take out anyone attempting to dump, distribute, unload or place "illegal gravel". This money could be put to good use if they need to fly thier little gun ships. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-14-2012, 08:07 AM	#70
Tac Permit Joined: Dec 2011 From: Burien, WA I Ride: ZX12r	Exceptional read. Very bouncy. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-14-2012, 10:02 AM	#72
Bluuu Señor verde Joined: Mar 2011 From: Kirkland I Ride: behind the girls.	I think people like the CG and marine traffic do a heck of a good job. I've had one encounter with the CG and they were friendly, helpful, and professional. I don't mind having them around. I'm not sure if the feeling is mutual. I imagine they shake their heads at some of the idiocy we little pleasure crafters manage to pull off. I wish I were younger and could join the coast guard. I'm totally jealous of those guy's job. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-14-2012, 10:40 AM	#73
1rocket69 Permit Joined: Aug 2009 From: Birch Bay, WA I Ride: ZX-10R 2004/ 06 KTM 560SMR	You can mount .50 on Heli, Thats all we had on our when I was in the Marines. The .50 caliber round is optimized for penetration at long ranges (about 875 yards, or 800 meters). For hard targets, .50 caliber penetration is affected by obliquity and range. The .50 caliber round can penetrate all of the commonly found urban barriers except a sand-filled 55-gallon drum. Continued and concentrated machine gun fire can breach most typical urban walls. Such fire cannot breach thick reinforced concrete structures or dense natural stone walls. Internal walls, partitions, plaster, floors, ceilings, common office furniture, home appliances, and bedding can be easily penetrated by .50 caliber rounds. Number of rounds needed to penetrate a reinforced concrete wall at 25° obliquity. Wall Thickness 109 yd (100 m) Range 219 yd (200 m) Range 2 ft (0.6 m) 300 rounds 1,200 rounds 3 ft (0.9 m) 450 rounds 1,800 rounds 4 ft (1.2 m) 600 rounds 2,400 rounds Penetration capabilities of a single .50 caliber M2 AP round fired from a 45-inch barrel. Range Armor Plate (homogeneous) Armor Plate (face-hardened) Sand Clay 219 yd (200 m) 1.0 in (25.4 mm) 0.9 in (22.9 mm) 14 in (355.6 mm) 28 in (711.2 mm) 656 yd (600 m) 0.7 in (17.8 mm) 0.5 in (12.7 mm) 12 in (304.8 mm) 27 in (685.8 mm) 1,640 yd (1,500 m) 0.3 in (7.6 mm) 0.2 in (5.1 mm) 6 in (152.4 mm) 21 in (533.4 mm) Penetration capabilities of a single .50 caliber M2 Ball round fired from a 45-inch barrel. Range Sand Clay Concrete 219 yd (200 m) 14 in (355.6 mm) 28 in (711.2 mm) 2 in (50.8 mm) 656 yd (600 m) 12 in (304.8 mm) 26 in (660.4 mm) 1 in (25.4 mm) 1,640 yd (1,500 m) 6 in (152.4 mm) 21 in (533.4 mm) 1 in (25.4 mm) __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter


09-14-2012, 10:47 AM	#74
PDXGSXR Permit Joined: Sep 2012 From: Portland I Ride: 05' GSXR600 Anniversary	Coast guard cutters mount freaking 5" deck guns on the forecastle. Remember it's coast GUARD, they can't guard much without some things that go bang. What do you think they use to shoot up drug runners speed boats with? BB guns? Slightly more effective than a .50 caliber pea shooter. __________________ Follow PNW Riders on Facebook and Twitter Last edited by PDXGSXR; 09-14-2012 at 10:49 AM..

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