Pjohn91

not sure if its a repost, just pisses me off so I am throwing it up here...oh and I suck at the internet so I don't know how to imbed it


http://youtu.be/Zb9VnvbYGak

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peddy

I thInk it's ki d of funny. And I don't mind of they Put it there or not. Don't be a ass and you should not get a :( lol. Or a flaming asshole lol.

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dcdeuce

This.

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peddy

Lol it's so funny to go back and read what I end up typing in a rush on a lagged out phone.

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Quicklimegirl

The fact a cop didn't like your attitude (or pretended it was bad based on a supposition which might not even be true) should have zero bearing on your case.

If you're upset (and show it) when you're pulled over it doesn't have anything to do with whether or not the infraction you're being cited for actually occurred. In essence, the cops in these cases are becoming an extension of the judges. It's wrong any way you slice it.

Too much consideration is already given to LEO's opinions as it is. This just stacks the deck even further without any basis in reality as to what the driver may or may have not done to receive a citation.

Oh....and I'm sure cops NEVER lie or make shit up, right?!!

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Sentor

I got a parking ticket 85%~ refunded because I came back out and saw them writing me up, and said "Yeah, I shouldn't have parked here, sorry about that, I deserve the ticket."

The officer wrote exactly that on the ticket and that I was pleasant.

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Dr. E

It is illegal and goes against jurisprudence. It is easy to laugh at, but when you are the one who is facing an unfair system in a court of law, it is not a court but a mock trial where you have been found guilty before you approach the bench. Every ticket that has this indication on it should be dismissed. If the officer has an issue with the offender they can present this in a open court of law.

As the perceived offender, you need to request discovery and all evidence against you provided to you before trial (notes and video tape that will or has been given to the court). Again, if you mock this concept there is nothing to stop the legal system from entering evidence against you that can bias a decision.

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Andy Capp

The problem is, imo, this type of thing makes the whole deal even more of a fucking joke. A Mickey Mouse court at best. The legal system is supposed to present impartial fact and evidence of a violation to which you are, by right, entitled to a fair trial. There should be no getting out of anything unless you are not guilty or the prosecution is not sound. A court is supposed to uphold the law not make a joke of it. If a particular law is a joke, re-write it or scrap it!

I wish they would just call it what it is, speed tax. Those that are "nice" and those that fund lawyers' new Porsches get a tax breaks. They should not try to hind this under the pretext of law or deal with it inside the legal system. Heck they should just give the speed guns to the IRS and have them send you the invoice in the mail.

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Sentor

Yeah, I see your point. In my case, I screwed up and parked where I shouldn't have.

In cases where there is a rightful chance to appeal, there shouldn't be any favoritism based on attitude. It goes against fact finding.

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Thaloc

Reminds me of that old Chris Rock joke.

" I got a ticket in the mail with a picture of me running a red light and $124 fine...."

"So I sent them a picture of a money order"

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peddy

And dident he get a picture of hand cuffs back? Lol

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koorbloh

indeed. every interaction that involves even the simplest of honest mistakes should result in a ticket for every possible thing. letter of the law. it's the only thing that makes sense.





.....wait.....

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jcmh1337

im about to go to court and ask to see the back of all my tickets. fuck that.

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Bluuu

Whaaa? Cops are making a mockery of our legal system? I'm shocked!

Cops are a menace to society!

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Darvax

Last I checked being an asshole isn't against the law. If it was 85% of this board would be incarcerated.

It's a joke that your attitude should make any difference at all once it goes to the courts. I get where it can make a difference during the actually stop. Everyone's human and can be affected by attitude but once it hits the courts attitude should have no relevence.

Sadly our whole legal system doesn't give a damn about the truth and the interest of justice. Instead it's merely become a revenue generation machine that sadly even fails on the endevour. Then the fact that the DA's only care about thier conviction rates to further their careers does not help in the pursuit of justice either. It's why I will give my money to a private attorney willingly even if it costs more then the fine. I refuse to feed the machine that our legal system has become. Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves.

Don't even get me started on our tax system.

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dsett1889

"Once it goes to court" is exactly right. Once the officer pulls you over and he believes you've commited the offense, your attitude can sometimes play a huge roll on the severity of your ticket or if you even get one at all. But once the officer has made that judgement, that as far as it should go.

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bikenut

blah blah blah. I ususally don't enter these nonsense posts...shows how board I am. Some people just don't get it. Yes, your all right. It's a big conspiracy against YOU. The cops are after all of us. They are held to no standards what so ever. Shit as a matter of factor the Federal Goverment is in on it too...cuz they care SO much about what YOU do. In short.. it's 1942 Germany. Jesus...really people. Fuck..you all either have HUGE egos or IMO just don't get it. I'm thinking the latter...

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bikenut

Let me make this clear...I'm not trying to be confrontational...just giving a different perspective...that's all.So, just so I'm clear, what you are saying is how you treat an officer or visa versa should not have a bearing in court? I think that is what you are saying..correct me if I'm wrong. So if you go into court and call the judge a complete fuck head he is somehow bound to show you mercy? I'm just trying to get perspective here. Now let's turn the tables. You get pulled over and have no ID. That gives a citizen a right to verbally bash an officer screaming harrassment?

I don't mean to be all over the board here but explain it to me like I'm a four year old. You blame everything on the government (laws) you vote on and blame everyone for your problems? And when the courts don't see your way you scream conspiracy?

Convient to say the least

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Andy Capp

Interesting but I'm confused......you mean 1942 France where everyone lays down and shallows the unlawful like big juicy German sausage?

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