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Old 10-16-2012, 04:17 PM   #1
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I Ride: Ninja 650 or somebody elses.
Any gear that's actually waterproof?
I've scoured the search function, read until my face turned blue...and then purple. Everyone seems to have something that works for them, but I'm not sure how many of us actually ride everyday. Yesterday, on my way back from 2WheelsDynoWorks at 4 or so, I spent an hour and a half in various definitions of 'rain' (pouring, road splatter, pissing, drizzling, more road splatter).

Basically, I got hosed. My Tourmaster Flex pants claim 'waterproof' and leaked like a goddamn sieve starting right in the crotch and just running down my legs. And yes, I ruled out pissing myself because it was rather cold. My Joe Rocket Phoenix 5.0 Jacket claims to have a waterproof liner and both my arms got soaked....and all of that ran down into my Gloves which is a separate problem.

I have a Tourmaster Series 3 that isn't much better. I could nik wax the hell out all of this gear but that not only seems silly but the seams aren't even really sealed.

At any rate, I'm riding year round until I finish grad school. Please help me find something that might make things a bit more comfortable, what's worked for you?

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Old 10-16-2012, 04:24 PM   #2
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I Ride: 07 YZ450F, 74 XL350
I had good luck with my tourmaster stuff for a couple years.

did you seal up the vents and shit?

also, gloves into your sleeves.




have you washed your jacket/pants at all?

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Old 10-16-2012, 04:24 PM   #3
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Gore Tex jackets are pretty damn good.

http://www.bikebandit.com/alpinestar...FaN_QgodLFAADg

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Old 10-16-2012, 04:28 PM   #4
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My Tourmaster jacket works great for me. After a wash, I always give it a good dousing of scotchgard, helps with the waterproofing.
As far as the pants go, a cheap pair of vinyl pants from cyclegear come with a 5 year warranty. I go through 3 or 4 pair a year. They don't seem to care.

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Old 10-16-2012, 04:29 PM   #5
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I had good luck with my tourmaster stuff for a couple years.

did you seal up the vents and shit?

also, gloves into your sleeves.




have you washed your jacket/pants at all?
Gloves, yes, forgot. I own up to that. Negative on the washing. Affirmed on the vents.

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Old 10-16-2012, 04:30 PM   #6
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Frogg Toggs seal up pretty good as an overgarment. I just ordered a size larger than I need for pants and used my Tourmaster for the jacket. Nikwax works good for sealing up the jacket. The Frogg Toggs are a one season use type of thing, but they're cheap so it works out okay.

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Old 10-16-2012, 06:13 PM   #7
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I Ride: Nothing, sold the Rebel, totaled the Ninja 500 :( :( :(
I had custom motoport pants and a leather teknic jacket (designed for sport bike riders), alpine star boots, and can't remember the gloves I use for the rain. I just put a rubber slicker over the leather jacket and never had a problem with water leakage. And aside from the gloves (which I am happy I wasn't wearing in the accident cause I really didn't feel they would have done much when they easily slid off my hands, I had my summer gloves, alpinestar with carbon knuckles), I can verify by experience that all that gear did protect me in a crash. I'm pretty sure I'd have at least a broken elbow and probably a knee and calf too if it weren't for the armor) and absolutely no road rash.

It was about 1000 dollar setup but worth every penny. Kept me dry for years and did its duty when I needed it.

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Old 10-16-2012, 07:39 PM   #8
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I Ride: WR450 08 Ducati mts 1100s
http://www.klim.com/en-us/moto

http://www.tourmaster.com/product/Te...3_Jacket/367/3

http://www.alpinestars.com/shop/cate...l-2012/?page=1

all of the above products have been very very good and cant beat the warranty, if any issue's pop up..

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Old 10-16-2012, 07:44 PM   #9
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No garments are waterproof. If you ride in the rain long enough, far enough or if it rains hard enough (as in North Florida), you're gonna get wet.

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Old 10-16-2012, 07:59 PM   #10
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No textile has ever been waterproof in my experience. I got wet in Tourmaster, First Gear, Moose, and Gore-Tex stuff.

Get a rain suit. One piece is better.

I have a cheap rain jacket from Cycle Gear and a pair of Carhartt work flex pants. I stay dry.

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Old 10-17-2012, 06:20 AM   #11
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Most manufacturer claims about being 'waterproof' are straight up lies. Water resistant in 15mins of light rain is closer to the truth for most of them. I got lucky found a nice thick rubber helly hansen raincoat at goodwill for $10, I just fold the hood part of the raincoat inside the jacket & put it on over my armored leather jacket. Got cheap rain overalls that construction/highway workers use to put over my leather pants, has velcro on pants legs that seal it up over my boots real nice. I haven't found any gloves other than neoprene that can withstand more than an hour of pouring rain so I use neoprene gloves that fit over my armored ones. These have worked great for me and is definitely waterproof thru 3hr rides in pouring down rain. My boots aren't waterproof but that has not been a problem for me.

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Old 10-17-2012, 06:30 AM   #12
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I've had excellent luck with my first gear stuff.

I have the HT over pants and the Kilimanjaro jacket and i'm rarely wet. I was in the same downpour that you were on monday afternoon and the only part of me that got wet was my crotch. that is the first time that has happened since owning the pants and i have ridden in some serious rain.

both the jacket and pants come with zip in liners so they're awesome for year round duty and the pants vent really well around the crotch area.

I've spent lots of money on gloves trying to find some that are truly waterproof and i don't think there are any out there. I ended up going with heated gloves and a heated liner for the cold days and the gloves keep me dry enough, but the warm is what i really care about.

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Old 10-17-2012, 06:36 AM   #13
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Grab your wallet and head to Aerostitch. I know quite a few serious long distance riders who will rock a stitch through a monsoon and come out the other side dry.

If the $600-$800 price tag is too steep you can always hit the hardware store for some Dutch Harbor bibs and jacket to put on over your gear. That should do the trick for daily commuting.

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Old 10-17-2012, 07:25 AM   #14
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Grab your wallet and head to Aerostitch. I know quite a few serious long distance riders who will rock a stitch through a monsoon and come out the other side dry.

If the $600-$800 price tag is too steep you can always hit the hardware store for some Dutch Harbor bibs and jacket to put on over your gear. That should do the trick for daily commuting.
Nailed it.

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Old 10-17-2012, 07:38 AM   #15
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I Ride: 2000 BRP (XR650R)
My tourmaster jacket is reasonably water proof. I wear regular rain pants over sweats and that also works. For longer rides in the rain i get wet but i wear polyester underneath so i stay warm and dry quickly.

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Old 10-17-2012, 07:42 AM   #16
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Grab your wallet and head to Aerostitch. I know quite a few serious long distance riders who will rock a stitch through a monsoon and come out the other side dry.

If the $600-$800 price tag is too steep you can always hit the hardware store for some Dutch Harbor bibs and jacket to put on over your gear. That should do the trick for daily commuting.
I'm a grad student, I'm lucky I'm not riding to school and back in my underwear frankly.

I'm going to look into the First Gear 'gear' that Grant recommended as it's a bit more, or how would you say, a bit less out of my price range. I ride every day so it's a balance of needing the gear to the cost factor. I may very well just get a huge Helly Hanson and put it over a jacket. That'll work as long as the weather is cold enough that I don't marinate in my own sweat. They're not breathable....but rubber is actually waterproof!

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Most manufacturer claims about being 'waterproof' are straight up lies. Water resistant in 15mins of light rain is closer to the truth for most of them. I got lucky found a nice thick rubber helly hansen raincoat at goodwill for $10....
Amen on the waterproofing lies. I used to pedal bike 28 miles a day year round a-couple-a-few years ago and I can't even tell you how much money in supposedly waterproof gear I went through (Gortex, eVent, all the name brand stuff). The only saving grace I figure on the motorcycle is that you're not sweating as much from all the physical labor so breathability (sp?) isn't as much of an issue.

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Old 10-17-2012, 07:46 AM   #17
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I'm a grad student, I'm lucky I'm not riding to school and back in my underwear frankly.

I'm going to look into the First Gear 'gear' that Grant recommended as it's a bit more, or how would you say, a bit less out of my price range. I ride every day so it's a balance of needing the gear to the cost factor. I may very well just get a huge Helly Hanson and put it over a jacket. That'll work as long as the weather is cold enough that I don't marinate in my own sweat. They're not breathable....but rubber is actually waterproof!
check out this site. they usually have decent prices.

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Old 10-17-2012, 08:14 AM   #18
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If price is an issue, you might consider Joe Rocket's Survival Suit. It's a one piece textile suit. I've had mine for about 4 years now. It started leaking on me last year. I re-sealed the seams and scotch gaurded it and it's good to go again. Check out newenough.com. they had the best price.

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Old 10-17-2012, 08:36 AM   #19
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I had the same issue with my Tourmaster set. Any real rain would quickly defeat it and I would get wet. My simple/cheap solution was a Coleman rain suit from Fred Meyer. A size larger than needed to slip over the Tourmaster costume and I'm always perfectly dry.

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Old 10-17-2012, 09:17 AM   #20
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[QUOTE=geckobrothers;2866320]I had the same issue with my Tourmaster set. Any real rain would quickly defeat it and I would get wet. My simple/cheap solution was a Coleman rain suit from Fred Meyer. A size larger than needed to slip over the Tourmaster costume and I'm always perfectly dry.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like the best solution for serious budget constraint you have.

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I'm a grad student, I'm lucky I'm not riding to school and back in my underwear frankly.
Remind me to bitch slap you for planting that visual the next time I see you.

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