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Old 11-23-2012, 03:41 PM   #41
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Glad he is ok. But he destoryed the bike we built. Poor ST1300...

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Old 11-23-2012, 04:01 PM   #42
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Glad he got airlifted with minor injuries.

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Old 11-23-2012, 04:22 PM   #43
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For those of you thinking it's not fair, let's take a more in-depth look at this scenario. I'm sure what he's going to get is worse than a ticket.

When you crash on duty there's a big investigation. Hence them closing the whole freeway. They have to measure the whole roadway for crash reconstruction.

Since it happened in duty, the agency is going to pay for the hospital visit, and the medi flight. They are out about 50 grand I think. Plus cost of bike repair. Unless they can blame some of that on the tar snakes, and get dot to pay for some of it.You bet there's going to be an internal investigation and probably days off as punishment.

If he gets 3 days suspension, that would equate to about 600 bucks. Possibly even removed from bike duty. Much higher than the 124 for speed to fast ticket.

So yeah, no ticket, but he gets a more painful deal in the long run. Plus the daily ribbing from his co-workers.

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Old 11-23-2012, 04:26 PM   #44
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Insurance increases from a ticket over three years add up to a 4 digit number math genius

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Old 11-23-2012, 05:45 PM   #45
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Insurance increases from a ticket over three years add up to a 4 digit number math genius
Wow, could you cry any louder? Other members here have chimed in with good points and valid repercussions outside of just a "ticket". Get over it already.

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Old 11-23-2012, 06:51 PM   #46
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Wow, could you cry any louder? Other members here have chimed in with good points and valid repercussions outside of just a "ticket". Get over it already.
I spoke specifically about one repercussion that should to apply mutually to either or none of us. I will also point out that I was not the first to bring it up. You then claimed that my statement is ignorant in the same post that you point out that cops get camera tickets...even though clearly I stated that cops don't ticket cops. Ironically ignorant on your part. I responded to people's points with valid points of my own only for you to tell me to get over it.

This part is for more than just you pvster: This is a forum; if you can't handle people discussing things logically, then GTFO off the thread.

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Old 11-23-2012, 06:52 PM   #47
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For those of you thinking it's not fair, let's take a more in-depth look at this scenario. I'm sure what he's going to get is worse than a ticket.

When you crash on duty there's a big investigation. Hence them closing the whole freeway. They have to measure the whole roadway for crash reconstruction.

Since it happened in duty, the agency is going to pay for the hospital visit, and the medi flight. They are out about 50 grand I think. Plus cost of bike repair. Unless they can blame some of that on the tar snakes, and get dot to pay for some of it.You bet there's going to be an internal investigation and probably days off as punishment.

If he gets 3 days suspension, that would equate to about 600 bucks. Possibly even removed from bike duty. Much higher than the 124 for speed to fast ticket.

So yeah, no ticket, but he gets a more painful deal in the long run. Plus the daily ribbing from his co-workers.

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Either way the joke is on the tax payer no matter if the DOT or police pay. The main reason everyone is mad is because he was seemingly unnecessarily airlifted for MINOR injuries.

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Old 11-23-2012, 07:45 PM   #48
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I spoke specifically about one repercussion that should to apply mutually to either or none of us. I will also point out that I was not the first to bring it up. You then claimed that my statement is ignorant in the same post that you point out that cops get camera tickets...even though clearly I stated that cops don't ticket cops. Ironically ignorant on your part. I responded to people's points with valid points of my own only for you to tell me to get over it.

This part is for more than just you pvster: This is a forum; if you can't handle people discussing things logically, then GTFO off the thread.
And your posts have been logical how? They've been nothing but crying. Clearly you've shown yourself to only be a hypocrite. If you can't take rebuttals, then GTFO off the thread as you put it. Not wasting my time with you.

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Old 11-23-2012, 07:49 PM   #49
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I spoke about where I derived my opinion from as well as numbers. You told me to stop crying and get over it. That has no logical reasoning and is not a counterargument.

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Old 11-23-2012, 08:41 PM   #50
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...I've seen cops on duty in patrol cars get speeding tickets from speeding cameras.
No you haven't. You're full of crap!

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Old 11-23-2012, 11:44 PM   #51
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I spoke about where I derived my opinion from as well as numbers. You told me to stop crying and get over it. That has no logical reasoning and is not a counterargument.
And others countered you, which you still dismissed and I pointed out. This isn't going anywhere.

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No you haven't. You're full of crap!
Uh, yeah I have. Seen the pictures to prove it too. Saw it in traffic school of all places. That was down in Arizona a good number of years ago.

Then there's this: http://www.abc57.com/seen-on/thursda...146250635.html

And this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-speeding.html

And this: http://www2.nbc4i.com/news/2009/aug/..._job-ar-16310/

Still full of crap Bluuu? No where near as much as you

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Old 11-24-2012, 12:10 AM   #52
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I have been sucked into the endless cycle of arguing with someone who instead of listening logically, makes ill founded accusations of ignorance. Reminds me of a great Mark Twain quote.

“Do not argue with an idiot they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

So I'm OUT

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Old 11-24-2012, 09:15 AM   #53
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I have been sucked into the endless cycle of arguing with someone who instead of listening logically, makes ill founded accusations of ignorance. Reminds me of a great Mark Twain quote.“Do not argue with an idiot they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”So I'm OUT
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:53 AM   #54
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Insurance increases from a ticket over three years add up to a 4 digit number math genius
I've read this statement a couple of times now. an increase over three years totaling a four-digit (>$1000) increase in rates. This begs the question as to how much you pay for insurance?

I was considering my own rates, that are full coverage, BI, PD, UM, UN, UMPD, Comp, Collision, Accessory, Roadside.

VFR700F $98
CX650T $64
CB700SC $75
XVS1100/A $132
XL1200 $120

That totals $489 per year for five insured bikes. I would have to have a >100% increase in my rates to hit the magic $1k mark. The question that places itself squarely in front of us is how much of a risk does your insurance company underwriting department believe that you are?

I'm certainly not casting any aspersions regarding your insurance rates or perceived risk as a rider. It is possible that I am just out of touch as to how much others are paying for insurance. I have been up on two wheels for 35 years so far. I don't know the quantitative benefit of that in my rates.

No matter what, a gentleman on a motorcycle crashed and got hurt. That is sad. It doesn't matter to me who he was working for at the time.

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Old 11-24-2012, 12:26 PM   #55
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Old 11-24-2012, 03:06 PM   #56
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If I didn't know any better I would assume that you are making fun of the poor bastard OP, along with all of the idiots that got caught up in the trolling and cop bashing. Of course I could be wrong about that, but I doubt it, and I don't think that they will ever learn.

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Old 11-26-2012, 01:44 PM   #57
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Glad he is ok.

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Old 11-26-2012, 07:23 PM   #58
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No one said life is fair. All though I don't agree with everything cops do or not do, this is how things have been since the beginning of time.

We don't know the whole story either, unless you were there. And just because your family members who are cops don't ticket others, doesn't mean all cops are that way... I have a good friend very high up in the Tacoma police dept who will and has ticketed other cops.

Always two sides to the story
I was there during the event. Couldn't admit to it earlier, nor can I state all that I know of what happened due to privacy issues. ...hence the reason why I brought up the "tar snake" and the accident history. That's public knowledge and can be easily seen via Google. I can't think of any other on-ramp in the Seattle area with three motorcycle accidents in the same location within the last year.

Mind you, this on-ramp was recently reconstructed as part of the widening project of the SR 531 (172nd St NE) interchange.

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Old 11-26-2012, 09:20 PM   #59
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Holy pointless Internet bickering batman.

Hope the dude's ok. No. He's not going to get a ticket. Get over it. If I was an officer I sure hope I wouldn't get a ticket.

The airlift is curious, but I have no problem with police officers, firefighters, medics and first responders taking care of their own if it was at all warranted.




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Old 11-27-2012, 10:35 AM   #60
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Holy pointless Internet bickering batman.

Hope the dude's ok. No. He's not going to get a ticket. Get over it. If I was an officer I sure hope I wouldn't get a ticket.

The airlift is curious, but I have no problem with police officers, firefighters, medics and first responders taking care of their own if it was at all warranted.




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